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CMYK Cemo TanamebrZolebo! qudze kaci unda gamovides! Cven unda vibrZoloT sakuTari momavlisTvis, Cveni Svilebis momavlisTvis! Cveni samSoblosTvis! Cveni saqarTvelosTvis! Cven iseT qveyanas avaSenebT, sadac veRaravin waarTmevs xalxs Tavis arCevans! Cven Rirsebas davubrunebT Cvens qveyanas! Cven Rirsebas davubrunebT da gavaerTianebT Cvens xalxs! Cveni qveyana Tavs daaRwevs gaWirvebas! #39 (223) z 12-18.IX.2012 weli z gamodis yovel oTxSabaTs z www.saertogazeti.net; E-mail: [email protected] z fasi 1 lari malxaz wereTeli: `WiaTurmanganumis~ xelovnuri gakotreba 12 000 aqcionerisaTvis mouSuSebel Wrilobad darCeba... baRaTer arabuli: saakaSvili saqarTvelos qvis xanaSi dabrunebas upirebs... gogi TofaZe: ra moxdeba da rogor moxdeba, ar vici, magram ivaniSvili mova xelisuflebaSi, namdvilad mova! demokratiiT datanjuli miSas imitom hgonia ivaniSvili trocki, rom TviTon aris patara stalini kaxa kukava: pirdapir vacxadeb, Tu saWiro gaxda, revoluciaSi uyoymanod miviReb monawileobas! luis navaros gamokvlevebi gamokvlevebulTaTvis ratom wyevlis meufe iosebi gurulebs? gogi xuciSvili: saakaSvils surs Tanamedrove modernizebuli iarliyiT qveynis mmarTvelobaSi feodaluri tipis urCxuli daabrunos `makkeiniT varT maked~ `Tu ginda siTbo da alersi, megobars Caxede TvalebSi~ zakaevsa da Cvens xelisuflebas Soris berezovski dgas... 2 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. mimarTva zugdidelebs Cemo Zvirfaso zugdidelebo, dgeba dro mniSvnelovani gadawyvetilebisa, rodesac Cven, rogorc maRali pasuxismgeblobis grZnobis mqone sazogadoebam unda ganvsazRvroT Cveni qalaqisa da raionis, Cveni qveynis bedi da momavali. gadavwyvitoT, Sevgwevs Tu ara unari vibrZoloT Rirsebisa da simarTlis dasacavad. dRes, rogorc arasdros, gvWirdeba sibrZne, vaJkacoba da goniereba swori arCevanis gasakeTeblad. Cven Tavad unda gadavwyvitoT, Tu ra gzas virCevT: sicruisa da siyalbis, Zalmomreobisa da abuCad agdebis, uuflebobisa da SiSis, Tu uflisa da sazogadoebisagan nakarnaxevi Rirsebisa da simarTlis gzas. es arCevani dRes keTdeba! amitomac gadavwyvite mivmarTo da vTxovo yvela zugdidels, zugdidsa Tu TbilisSi mcxovreb yvela Cems Tanamoqalaqes _ dadeqiT simarTlis mxares! es aucilebelia Cveni qveynis ukeTesi momavlisTvis, zugdidelebisTvis, Cemi megrelebisTvis, WeSmariti qarTvelebisTvis. aravin ar unda darCes gulgrili arCevnebis mimarT. vinaidan dRes gveZleva SesaZlebloba uari vTqvaT Zaladobasa da siyalbeze da arCevnebis gziT SevcvaloT xelisufleba. adamiani xom samyaros gvirgvinia, romelsac uflisgan eboZa Tavisufali arCevanis ufleba. Cven valdebulni varT, es ufleba gamoviyenoT, davicvaT igi da aravis mivceT SesaZlebloba misi xelyofisa. ukanaskneli 20 wlis manZilze samegrelom sxva regionebze metad ganicada ekonomikuri siduxWire. ZmaTamkvleli omi, usamarTloba. samegrelo gaRatakebul, daSinebul da daTrgunul regionad gadaiqca, umuSevari mosaxleobiTa da damwuxrebuli, usixarulo saxeebiT, patimarTa katastrofuli raodenobiT. dRes politikaSi yofna da sazogadoebrivi aqtiuroba qveyanaSi arsebuli mdgomareobis gaTvaliswinebiT, TiToeuli CvenTaganis movaleobaa. es aris Cveni Rirsebis saqme. Cven yvelas erTad mogviwevs Selaxuli Tavmoyvareobis aRdgena da ara mxolod dakarguli teritoriebis, aramed Cveni afxazi da osi Zmebis, debis dabruneba. Kkaci, romelic dRes ganacxadebs “politika ar mainteresebso”, samwuxarod miamitad ityuebs Tavs. aravis gvaqvs ufleba viyoT gulgrili politikis, saqarTveloSi mimdinare procesebis da 1 oqtombris arCevnebis mimarT. Cveni valdebulebaa gvqondes pozicia - dRes aqaa Cveni didgori da basiani. rogorc araerTxel yofila qveynis istoriaSi, dResac samegrelom unda Seasrulos gamaerTianeblis roli! swori arCevanis gakeTebis SemTxvevaSi, zugdids, zugdidis mosaxleobas SeuZlia Secvalos reJimi da cxovrebis wesi ara marto am qalaqSi, aramed mTel qveyanaSi. Cemo zugdidelebo, Zmebo da debo, erTxelac gavixsenoT vin varT, saidan movdivarT, rogor gadavrCiT istoriis ulmobel qartexilebSi. CvenSi kolxebis sisxli Cqefs, im ZirZveli kolxebisa, romlebmac TavianTi vaJkacobiT dRemde mogviyvanes. gavufrTxildeT da CaveWidoT yvelafers Rirebuls, rom ar davikargoT wuTisoflis mzakvrul labirinTebSi. davicvaT sisxliTa da ofliT gadarCenili sanukvari ganZi - “ena, mamuli, sarwmunoeba”. Cveni eris mfarveli angelozi Tavad zeciuri dedofali - yovladwminda deda RvTismSobelia, romlis kvarTi zugdidSi inaxeba da romliTac ase vamayobT zugdidelebi. es did pasuximgeblobas gvakisrebs! dRes cvlilebebis droa! amitomac vdgavar koalicia “qarTuli ocnebis”, batoni biZina ivaniSvilisa da irakli alasanias gverdiT. iq, sadac Cemi adgilia _ Cemi zugdidisa da zugdidelebis gverdiT. mjera da vici, rom Cven erTad gavimarjvebT da arCevnebiT SevcvliT dRevan- del xelisuflebas. SevcvliT im usaxur realobas, romelic Cven zugdidqalaqSi, mTels zugdidis raionSi da sruliad saqarTveloSia. rogorc amas winaT uwmindesma da unetaresma brZana : “sikeTe yovelTvis imarjvebs borotebaze”. madloba ufals am didi wyalobisaTvis. Mmdabali SiSi sabolood unda daiZlios. Cveni arCevani unda iyos mtkice da gabeduli. simarTlea is Zala, romelic SiSs amarcxebs. dRes simarTle “qarTuli ocnebis” mxaresaa. mjera, zugdidi da sruliad saqarTvelo 1 oqtombers Rirseul gamarjvebas moipovebs. manamde ki 22 seqtembers zugdidSi Sedgeba samagaliTo sazeimo Sexvedra baton biZina ivaniSvilTan da koaliciis sxva liderebTan. yvelas gelodebiT, Cemo gautexelo zugdidelebo! merab qvaraia koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~ zugdidis ofisis xelmZRvaneli `saerTo gazeTi~ mTavari redaqtori: vaxtang xarCilava gamomcemeli: Sps sagamomcemlo centri `saerTo sityva~ mis: Tbilisi, aRmaSeneblis 164; tel.: 2 14 40 19; 2 34 28 97 regist. #202375349; uak (UDC) 070.23 (479.22) s-1 158 interviu Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetis istoriis fakultetis II kursis studentTan, koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~ vakis axalgazrduli frTis wevrTan irakli kalandiasTan _ irakli, ratom gadawyvite `qarTul ocnebaSi~ gawevrianeba? _ Cemi kursidan sul ramdenime varT, vinc es gadawyvetileba miviReT. imitom, rom migvaCnia, ase gagrZeleba aRar SeiZleba. oqtombris arCevnebi gviaxlovdeba da es aris bolo Sansi _ saqarTvelo an ganviTarebis swor gzas daadgeba, an daiRupeba, unda Seicvalos yvelaferi. me da Cemi megobrebi ise varT ganwyobili, rom ar davTmobT Cvens arCevans da es Zalian mixaria, Tumca guli mwydeba, rom studentebis umetesobas, ZiriTadad maT, vinc regionebidan aris Camosuli informacia ar aqvT da yvelaferi ise hgoniaT, rogorc saxelisuflebo televiziebidan xedaven. aq, universitetSi, maTi ZiriTadi `ideologi~ TviTmmarTvelobaa, romelsac dahyavs eseni eqskursiebze, politizebul SemecnebiT-gasarTob RonisZiebebs atareben, aTasobiT Tanxebi ixarjeba iseT rameebze da studentebs warmodgenac ar aqvT, rom es maTi swavlis gadasaxadia, maTive jibeebidan amoRebuli. kmayofili arian, TavisTavad cxadia, da mere isev am TviTmmarTvelobas irCeven da ver xvdebian, ra situaciaa qveyanaSi. me studentur gaerTianeba `studentur xmaSic~ viyavi. vibrZodiT gaTavisuflebuliyo universiteti marTvadi TviTmmarTvelobisagan. TviTmmarTvelobam ramdenjerme mTxova gavmxdariyavi maTi jgufis wevri, magram ganvucxade _ me var `qarTuli ocnebis~ wevri da ar SemiZlia viyo TqvenTan, radgan ver moviTmen calmxriv politikur propagandas studentebSi-meTqi. ver miviRebdi nacmoZraobis mier dagegmil RonisZiebebSi monawileobas, rogorc amas TviTmmarTvelobis wevrebi akeTeben. ver wavidodi, magaliTad, makkeinTan samegrelom unda Tqvas yvelaze Tamami sityva... _ ris Secvlas gulisxmobT? _ qveyanaSi masobrivi SiSia gamefebuli. ar unda gagrZeldes ase, Tu ase kidev gagrZelda, SeveguebiT gabatonebul SiSs, mere ukve Zalian gviani iqneba. amboben, kriminali da korufcia davamarcxeTo, kriminali ar aris is, me ofisidan `qarTuli ocnebis~ maisuriT rom gamovdivar da ar vici, saxlSi cocxali davbrundebi Tu ara? iciT, Tqven, cota xnis win daakaves `qarTuli ocnebis~ axalgazrduli jgufis wevri beqa jiqiZe da ukve miusajes winaswari orTviani patimroba. Cven CavatareT aqcia Sinagan saqmeTa saministrosTan, magram rad ginda, reagireba ar yofila. _ is xulignobis braldebiT daakaves. Tqven Tu SemTxvevis adgilze ar yofilxarT, ra iciT, iqneb ixuligna kidevac? _ ara, ara, me, marTalia, iq ar vyofilvar, magram aseTi ram ar imaleba. beqa `qarTuli ocnebis~ maisuriT yofila megobarTan erTad. im megobars patara Cxubi mosvlia da beqa jiqiZe wauyvaniaT. iq Seuracxyofac miuyenebiaT beqasTvis samarTaldamcavebs. saqme isaa, rom ver vitan tyuils da TvalTmaqcobas. sanam pirvel kursze viyavi, biZina ivaniSvilis fuliT xdeboda pirveli korpusis remonti, Cven mexuTe korpusSi viyaviT, kibeebi ise iyo moryeuli, xis ficrebiT iyo gamagrebuli, studentebs erTi suli gvqonda, rodis garemontdeboda pirveli korpusi. yvela fiqrobda, rom remonti universitetis saxsrebiT midioda da aravin icoda, rom ivaniSvili akeTebda amas. mere, roca gadavediT I korpusSi, aravis uTqvams, rom ivaniSvilis xeliT iyo galamazebuli iqauroba. Sexvedraze da a.S. arada valdebulni arian. Tbilisis merTan Sesaxvedrad amas winaT grandiozuli Sexvedra moawyves. tendenciuri rom aris yvelaferi, es ar momwons. biZina ivaniSvils rom undodes studentebTan Sexvedra, vin icis, ra moxdeba. TviTmmarTveloba, albaT, xels ki ar Seuwyobs, piriqiT, SeuSlis. yvelaze metad axla vwuxvar imaze, ra moxdeba samegreloSi ivaniSvilTan Sexvedraze. me samegrelos Svili var da velodebi, rom samegrelom unda Tqvas yvelaze Tamami da gadamwyveti sityva. rac samegreloSi xdeba, es araa ubralo ambavi, me vityodi, es aris faSizmis umaRlesi done. pirdapir Sedian saxlebSi da eubnebian _ Svils dagiWer, mogiklav, Tu ar dagviWer mxars da a.S. magram me imedi maqvs da yvelaze metad minda axla es _ realobam molodins gadaaWarbos, movides Zalian bevri xalxi. aravis ar unda SeeSindes Tundac roland axalaiasi, sircxvilia, roca am adamianis kandidaturas sTavazoben asarCevad zugdidis mosaxleobas, Tan upirispireben irakli alasanias, araa es normaluri situacia. me zugdidis aqciaze aucileblad waval, SevuerTdebi megrelebis protests Zaladobis da usamarTlobis winaaRmdeg. unda gavimarjvoT, sxva gza ar aris! iranda kalandaZe gazeTi xelmZRvanelobs Tavisufali presis principiT. SesaZloa, avtoris pozicia ar eTanxmebodes redaqciis azrs. informaciis sizusteze pasuxismgebelia avtori. gasaCivreba SesaZlebelia masalis gamoqveynebidan erTi kviris vadaSi. Semosuli masalebi avtorebs ar ubrundeba. am niSniT aRniSnulia sareklamo masalebi. #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi fragmentebi biZina ivaniSvilis gamosvlis teqstidan 9 seqtembris aqciaze, TelavSi dRes aq, patara kaxis sataxto qalaqSi, gansakuTrebuli simZafriT vgrZnobT kaxeli kacis gautexel Zalasa da sulier simtkices, romelmac ara erTxel ixsna qarTlkaxeTica da mTeli saqarTveloc sruli fizikuri da sulieri ganadgurebisagan. swored kaxel kacs, baxtrionis gmirs, saqarTvelos umamaces mxedars, biZina ColoyaSvils ekuTvnis STamomavlobisaTvis anderZad danatovari sityvebi: „...Zmebo, nu SevSindebiT, rameTu sikvdili uneblieT dabadebidanve Tan gvaxlavs... da raki unda movkvdeT, barem movkvdeT qristesTvis da saqarTvelosTvis“. me erTxel gamovTqvi Cemi mosazreba erTerT xidTan dakavSirebiT. es sakaSvilma xelze daixvia da braldebebi moayola, rom me damangreveli var, TviTon ki aRmSenebeli. wlebis ganmavlobaSi imaze vzrunavdi, rom Cemi qveynis aRmSeneblobaSi mimeRo monawileoba. da amaSi araferia gansakuTrebuli, radgan am qveynis Svili var da es Cems movaleobad mimaCnda da mimiCnia. rac mikeTebia, yvelaferi Tavad miiweres, yvelaferi, da axla gamoRma medavebian, damangreveli xaro. roca rames akeTeb, rac SeiZleba Cumad unda akeTo, uxmaurod. qveynis prezidenti Tavis xalxs ganadgurebiT ar emuqreba, kriminals da mters ar uwodebs, es ar xdeba arc erT civilizebul qveyanaSi. es unda damTavrdes! Tavisi Zalauflebis SesanarCuneblad, saakaSvili cdilobs, orad gahyos xalxi da samkvdro-sasicocxlod gadahkidos erTmaneTs. amgvari saSineli dapirispirebis umwaresi gakveTili oci wlis win miiRo Cvenma xalxma, romelic, mjera, imdenad dabrZenebulia, rom ukve msgavsi aRaraferi moxdeba. yvelam TvalnaTliv dainaxa, rom arc erTi xelisufleba da politikuri lideri ar Rirs imad, rom misma momxreebma da mowinaaRmdegeebma erTmaneTi sasikvdilod gaimeton. amitom saakaSvili, ramdensac unda ecados, ver gaxleCs Cvens xalxs. cotac gauZeliT, xalxo, erTi Tvec aRar darCa arCevnebamde, da gpirdebiT, rom momavali rTveli sxvanairi iqneba. me gamovnaxe kanonieri gza dazaralebulTa daxmarebisTvis da is 80milioniani jarima, romelic saxelmwifom ukanonod damakisra, gadavricxe stiqiis Sedegad dazaralebuli mosaxleobis dasaxmareblad da es fuli aucileblad da uklebliv unda moxmareboda xalxs! xom xedavT Tqvenc, rom es Tanxac ar movida Tqvenamde, radgan xelisuflebam isev sakuTari miznebisTvis sxvadasxva regionSi gadaanawila. arada es 80 milioni imis saSulebas iZleoda, rom TiToeul ojaxs kompensaciis saxiT sul cota 4 aTas 700 lari mieRo! axla medavebian, TiTqos maswvaleblebs vemuqrebi da vaSineb. ar daijeroT, xalxo, piriqiT, Cemze meti qomagi aravin geyolebaT, icodeT! me mxolod imas vambob, rom dRes yvelaze uuflobo da damcirebuli maswavleblebi arian. dRes xelisufleba maTgan srul morCiebas da msaxurebas moiTxovs, maswavleblis ufrosia yvela - ministri, direqtori, mandaturi, xSirad mSobelic ki. maswavleblis avtoriteti mTlianad dakninebulia. maswavleblebo, qeds vixri Tqven winaSe! visac gindaT, rom Cveni Svilebi karg ganaTlebas ewafebodnen, kargi da iafi saxelmZRvaneloebiT swavlobdnen, modiT arCevnebze da xma mogveciT Cven, „qarTul ocnebas“! visac gindaT, rom Tqveni da Tqveni axloblebis janmrTeloba saxelmwifom daazRvios, arc wamali eZvirebodes da arc karg saavadmyofoSi mkurnaloba, modiT da airCieT „qarTuli ocneba“ da misi maJoritarobis kandidati. maT ki, vinc nacionalur moZraobas Semoxazavs mainc, icodnen, rom rodesac Cven movalT xelisuflebaSi, maT aravin gauxsenebs aseT arCevans, da yoveli sikeTiT, rasac saqarTvelos aRmSenebloba moitans, isinic iseve isargebleben, rogorc yvela danarCeni. Cven bolos movuRebT xalxis dayofas xelisuflebis momxreebad da mowinaaRmdegebad, amas gpirdebiT! Cemo TanamebrZolebo! qudze kaci unda gamovides! Cven unda vibrZoloT sakuTari momavlisTvis, Cveni Svilebis momavlisTvis! Cveni samSoblosTvis! Cveni saqarTvelosTvis! Cven iseT qveyanas avaSenebT, sadac veRaravin waarTmevs xalxs Tavis arCevans! Cven Rirsebas davubrunebT Cvens qveyanas! Cven Rirsebas davubrunebT da gavaerTianebT Cvens xalxs! Cveni qveyana Tavs daaRwevs gaWirvebas! Cven iseT qveyanas avaSenebT, sadac aRaravis dasWirdeba lukmapuris saSovnelad samSoblodan gadaxvewa. saqarTveloSi daculi iqneba adamianis yvela ufleba, azrisa da sityvis Tavisufleba; sasamarTlo iqneba samarTliani, media - damouxelSeukidebeli, biznesi -x xebeli! iseT qveyanas avaSenebT, sadac Cvens saamayo jariskacebsa da policielebs miecemaT imis SesaZlebloba, rom Rirseulad emsaxuron saxelmwifos da ara romelime xelisufals! Tavisufal saqarTveloSi Tavisufali xalxi icxovrebs, romelsac aRar eqneba politikuri devnis SiSi! me amas gpirdebiT! 3 4 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. protestis ufleba, gavigeT, rom ar gvaqvs, magram imis ufleba mainc Tu gvaqvs, rom dagvTvalon? luis navaros gamokvlevebi gamokvlevebulTaTvis luis navarom aiCema, biZina ivaniSvilma 2 oqtombers xalxs saprotesto gamosvlebisken mouwodao. ar uTqvams es biZina ivaniSvils, man Tqva, Tu arCevnebi gayalbdeba, 2 oqtombers `qarTuli ocnebis~ mxardamWerebi quCaSi gamovalT, rom dagvTvalon, Tu ramdeni varT sinamdvileSio. vimeoreb, ar uxsenebia ivaniSvils sityva protesti, Tumca romc exsenebina, ra, qarTvel xalxs, Tu mas arCevnebs uyalbeben da mis Rirsebas fexqveS Telaven, protestis gamoxatvis ufleba ara aqvs? frangebs, berZnebs, italielebs, arabebs, qurTebs, ingliselebs ufleba aqvT protesti gamoTqvan ki ara, Tavze daamxon yvelaferi TavianT uRirs xelisuflebebs, qarTvelebs ki erTi uwyinari, mSvidobiani protestis uflebac ar hqoniaT Turme. ratom, Zmao, risi gulisTvis, Torem ki... vis ra dauSavdeba Cveni protestiT _ SeiZleba erTi _ miSa wadi! daviZaxoT da sanam is wasvlas moifiqrebs, Cven TviTon wavalT saxlSi. oTxi Tu xuTi welia sul vaprotestebT da vaprotestebT, magram vis ra ziani miadga amiT, vis ra gaufuWda? rasmuseni Camovida da avRaneTSi sabrZolvelad qarTveli biWebi cxvris farasaviT waasxa, samagierod, imediani sityvebi dagvitova: _ Tqven sul ufro da ufro uaxlovdebiT natos... axla ise axlos xarT, ise axlos xarT, aqamde arasodes rom ar yofilxarTo. me mgoni, eseni gvabiTureben, Cven kidev azrze ar varT... nato qimerad da moCvenebad iqca _ Cven vuaxlovdebiT, vuaxlovdebiT, vuaxlovdebiT, is ki sul ufro da ufro gvSordeba... _ ai, axla am oqtombris arCevnebs samarTlianad rom CaatarebT, CaTvaleT, rom TiTqmis natoSi xarTo, _ gviTxres. ar apirebs saakaSvili am ar- protestis ufleba, gavigeT, rom ar gvaqvs, magram imis ufleba mainc Tu gvaqvs, dagvTvalon? _ ra dagTvalon, kaco, Tqven xom ar SeiSaleT, rom dagTvalon, quCaSi xom unda gamoxvideT, quCaSi gamosvla ki ukve protestia, _ gadairia navaro. e.i. quCaSi gamosvlis uflebac ar gvaqvs, navaro? ra varo, ra Tqva am navarom? ra varo da sazogadoebrivi azris kvleva var da gamokvlevebulebs vumtkiceb, rom merabiSvils ufro maRali reitingi aqvs, vidre ivaniSvils da es Cemi gamokvleva arCevnebSi Tu Sesabamis procentebSi aisaxeba, ar gaikvirvoTo. gakvirvebiT ki gaikvirveT, Tu gindaT, magram quCaSi gamosvla da, miTumetes, protestis gamoTqma ar gabedoTo, _`Cagvinamioka~ navarom. TiTqmis igive gviTxra megobris (saakaSvilis) sa- naxavad Camosulma makkeinmac, oRond ufro rTulad da CaxlarTulad _ ar iqneba kargi arCevnebis Semdeg dapirispireba xangrZliv davaSi gadaizardos... damarcxebasTan Segueba unda viswavloTo, _ dagvariga. gayalbebasTan Segueba unda viswavloTo, geTqvaT, barem, mister jon... * * * rogorc irkveva, qarTvelebs quCaSi gamosvlis ufleba da amasTan erTad protestis uflebac CamogvarTves. xelisufleba RvTisaao, _ gvaswavlis biblia, magram, veWvob, am frazaSi is xelisufleba igulisxmebodes, romelic navaroebis, maWavarianebis, gogoriSvilebis, TarxniSvilebis, iakobaSvilebis mier gayalbebuli arCevnebis wyalobiT gaxda xelisufleba. _ diqtaturis winaaRmdeg ajanyeba RvTis morCilebao, _ gvimtkicebs Tomas jefersoni. jefersoni wesieri kaci iyo da tyuils ar ityoda... rasmusenma dagvibara... rebTan axlosac ar migvikareben, samagierod, msoflios sxvadasxva cxel wertilebSi qarTvelTa aqtiur monawileobaze didsulovnad dagvTanxmdebian. Cevnebis samarTlianad Catarebas _ ar unda am kacs natoSi da Zalaa? iseTi fokusebis koriantels daayeneben `nacebi~ oqtomberSi, erTi oci weli natos ka- Cven natoSi Sesvlis ufleba ar gvaqvs, Torem natosTvis sikvdilis ufleba vin wagvarTva? avRaneTidan natos qveynebi gamodian, Cven kidev ufro gaZlierebuli kontingentiT vrCebiT. saerTod, mTeli Crdilo-atlantikuri aliansi rom gamovides avRaneTidan, Cven mainc davrCebiT. davrCebiT da movkvdebiT natos saxeliT. sakuTar omSi sikvdili gvezareba, Torem sxvis omSi sikvdili TamaSad da gviCans mRerad. ase iyo odiTganve, asea axlac da ase iqneba, albaT, momavalSic... #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. gasuli kviris SabaTs gamarTulma `nacionaluri moZraobis~ yrilobam Tu yrilobebma sabWoTa periodis dResaswaulebi gamaxsena, roca 1 maiss Tu 7 noembers qalaqebsa Tu soflebSi mSromelTa kolonebi gamoefinebodnen da wiTeli almebis frialiT esalmebodnen tribunebze Semoskupebul partiul didkacobas. garegnulad TiTqos yvelaferi rigze iyo _ adamianebs bednieri, gacinebuli saxeebi hqondaT, skandirebiTac xmaSewyobilad skandirebdnen, plakatebzec kompartiis sadidebeli sityvebi ewera, quxda mxne, optimisturi musika, magram mTeli ubedureba is iyo, rom yvelafer amas siyalbis da xelovnurobis elferi dahkravda. saqme imaSia, rom am adamianebis umravlesoba Zalad, savaldebulo wesiT iyo quCaSi gamorekili da mTeli es dResaswauli Tavidan bolomde dadgmuli iyo, rogorc grandiozuli speqtakli. rogorc dRes saakaSvili da `nacmoZraoba~ avaldebulebs Tavis rwmunebulebs, gamgeblebs, skolis direqtorebs, sabiujeto organizaciebis xelmZRvanelebs gamoiyvanon adamianebi ama Tu im RonisZiebebze, zustad ase avaldebulebdnen komunistebi TavianT partiul qveSevrdomebs, fabrika-qarxnebis direqtorebs, kolmeurneobebis Tavmjdomareebs, umaRlesi saswavleblebis, skolebis xelmZR- vanelebs organizeba gaekeTebinaT da uzrunvelyoT adamianTa asprocentiani daswreba. marTalia, mixeil saakaSvili sxvebs ukiJinebs, warsulSi undaT dagvabrunono, magram sinamdvileSi swored saakaSvili gvabrunebs warsulSi, ufro zustad ki ar gvabrunebs, ukve dagvabruna komunistur epoqaSi. faqtobrivad, es erTi-erTSi imeorebs komunisturi mmarTvelobis stils da im piarteqnologiebs, romelTac komunistebi cdilobdnen adamianebisTvis tvinebis gamorecxvas da dazombirebas. mixeil saakaSvili Tavisi bunebiT, Tavisi xasiaTiT da fsiqikiT Zalian hgavs gasuli saukunis 30-iani wlebis bolSevikebs _ maTsaviT isic mzad aris gaanadguros saerTo gazeTi demokratiiT datanjuli miSas imitom hgonia ivaniSvili trocki, rom TviTon aris patara stalini oponentebi, daamciros, daakninos yvela, visac misgan gansxvavebuli azrebi da Sexedulebebi aqvs, pirad mtrad aRiqvas yvela, vinc mas monurad qeds ar uxris. isic, 30-iani wlebis bolSevikebiviT, axali tipis adamianis Seqmnas cdilobs (gaixseneT lisenkos cnobili sityvebi: `me ar davbadebulvar adamianad, me adamianad partiam Semqmna~). nebismieri saSualo inteleqtis fsiqologi damidasturebs, rom adamianebi erTmaneTisgan mkveTrad gansxvavebuli zniT da xasiaTiT ibadebian da am genetikuri kodis Secvla arc aRzrdas SeuZlia, arc ganaTlebas. saakaSvilis tragedia is aris, rom is dabadebiT ar aris demokrati. demokratobac Tandayolili RvTiT naboZebi niWia, demokratebad ibadebian, ise rogorc ibadebian musikosebad, mxatvrebad, poetebad... despotebad da diqtatorebadac ibadebian, ise rogorc ibadebian mkvlelebad, kleptomanebad, sadistebad, sadomazoxistebad, avazakebad, karieristebad, egoistebad. mixeil saakaSvili tragi- kuli pirovnebaa _ mas unda ecxovra bolSevikur saqarTveloSi, tyavis Savi palto unda cmoda da xelSi mauzeri unda sWeroda, mas ki bedis ironiiT, demokratiul saqarTveloSi mouwia cxovrebam da moRvaweobam. mixeil saakaSvili demokratiiT datanjuli kacia, radgan is iZulebulia xandaxan mainc moiqces ise, TiTqos demokrati iyos da akeTos is, risi gakeTebac mis Sinagan bunebas radikalurad ewinaaRmdegeba. mas ukiduresad sZuls demokratiuli Rirebulebebi, sZuls is demokratiuli institutebi da is pirovnebebic, romlebic mas demokratiisken, Semwynareblobis da loialurobisken mouwodeben. misi politikuri karierisTvis aucilebeli rom ar iyos, is siamovnebiT gaanadgurebda yvelas da yvelafers, rac mis Zalauflebas ewinaaRmdegeba da, misi azriT, safrTxes uqmnis. is demokratobanas TamaSobs da amiT itanjeba, wvalobs, iTrguneba, Tumca xSirad TamaSs Tavs anebebs da, ai, maSin warsdgeba xolme Tavisi namdvili saxiT, saxiT, romelic pirquSi, sastiki, SurismaZiebeli da daundobelia. roca demokratiiT takimasxroba bezrdeba, niRabs ixdis da mobezrebuli rolisgan Tavisufldeba, is TiTqos garegnuladac sxvanairi xdeba _ sxva dros moSvebuli misi dondlo torsi energiiT imuxteba, xmaSi foladi gamoereva da is raRaciT emsgavseba yumbaras, romelic sadacaa gamosxlteba lulidan da mizanSi amoRebuli msxverplis gasanadgureblad gaeSureba. saakaSvilisTvis samyaro Sav-TeTria. adamianebic da adamianebTan urTierTobac Sav-TeTr ferebSi aqvs gadawyvetili _ Savia yvela, vinc mis oponentobas bedavs, TeTri _ vinc monurad Sescicinebs TvalebSi. is, rogorc Cans, ukve daiRala demokratiiT da bolo xanebSi demokratiis mSeneblobaze cotas laparakobs, samagierod, Zalian bevrs saubrobs ama Tu im obieqtis, saxlebis, xidebis, qalaqebis mSeneblobebze, riTac TiTqos demokratiis deficitis kompensacias cdilobs. _ ra dros omia, demokratia maqvs asaSenebelio, ki ar ambobs, _ ra dros omia, lazika maqvs asaSenebelio, _ iZaxis. mas hgonia, rom lazikis, an sxva romelime obieqtis aSenebiT gadafaravs da gadaswonis qveyanaSi demokratiuli institutebis ararsebobas. obieqtebis mSeneblobas is saxelmwifos mSeneblobasTan aigivebs, rac absoluturad mcdari da yovlad ususuri demagogiaa. _ Cven ar gvinda warsulSi dabruneba, Cven, win, momavlisken unda viaroT. win, saqarTvelo! _ ambobs saakaSvili, Tumca man ar icis gza winisken, anu momavlisken, rogorc ar icodnen es misma sulierma winaprebma, komunistebma, romlebsac sul Âïåðåä ekeraT pirze, magram aRmoCnda, rom es Âïåðåä ufskruli iyo. roca warsulze laparakobs, saakaSvili ver xvdeba da ver acnobierebs, rom Tavad aris warsuli Tavad aris guSindeli dRe, miuxedavad misi axalgazrduli asakisa. (unda iTqvas, rom asaki saerTod arafer SuaSi ar aris imis gansasazRvrad, vin ras warmoadgens, vin ra faseulobebs emsaxureba da vin azrovnebs ufro progresulad). usamarTlo da uargumento mgonia saakaSvilis mimarT sayveduri, Tu ratom ver aSenebs igi demokratias? es igivea, adamians, romelsac xatvis niWi ar aqvs, vusayveduroT, ratom ar SeuZlia maRalmxatvruli nawarmoebi Seqmnas. es igivea, adamians, romelsac musikaluri smena ar aqvs, simfoniis an operis dawera davavaloT da roca is am davalebas ver Seasrulebs, sayvedurebiT avavsoT. ar aqvs mixeil saakaSvils demokratobis niWi da ra hqnas? risi niWic aqvs, rac gangebam uboZa im niWs is SesaniSnavad iyenebs, magram demokrati verasodes gaxdeba da ramdenic ar unda wvrTnan ucxoelma maswavleblebma am saqmidan araferi gamova. jer kidev rodis Tqva poetma: `magram marto wvrTna ras uzams, Tu bunebam ar uSvela~. is ubedurobani, rac saakaSvilma daatriala, ar aris mxolod misi brali, es im sazogadoebis bralia, romelmac demokratiis mSeneblad iseTi kaci airCia, romlisTvisac demokratiuli Rirebulebebi Tavidanve miuRebeli da ucxo iyo. saakaSvili Tavisi bunebiT, Tavisi Sinagani wyobiT, Tavisi fsiqikiT, stalinis uniWo mibaZvaa, amitomac eCveneba mas biZina ivaniSvili trockad, xolo misi garemocva zinoviev-kamenevis dajgufebad. mixeil saakaSvili misi SecdomebiT savse cxrawliani moRvaweobis Semdeg, Zalianac rom undodes, demokratias ver aaSenebs, radgan es iqneba umkacresi ganaCeni misTvis. saakaSvilma rom dRes demokratia aaSenos, es igivea xarakiri gaikeTos. saakaSvili demokratiiT datanjuli kacia. saakaSvilisTvis demokratia bedi mdevaria, romelic adre Tu gvian aucileblad wamoeweva da yvelaferze erTad mosTxovs pasuxs. giorgi gamezardaSvili 5 6 saerTo gazeTi `saerTo gazeTis~ stumaria batoni gogi TofaZe.. _ batono gogi, NDI-iis sociologiuri kvlevebis bolo Sedegebze saubriT rom ar da viwyo, ubralod, warmoudgene lia _ ras ityviT, Tqvenc nawilobriv eTanxmebiT dadebul Sedegebs? _ unda giTxraT, rom me arc erT kvlevas ar vaqcev yuradrebas, radgan imTavidanve vici, rom es kvlevebi gamiznulad tardeba da sazogadoebis dezorientaciazea gaTvlili _ ar minda amaze saubari... me rasac 1995 wlidan vuyureb, im process arCevnebs ver davarqmev _ iyo Zaladoba, tomrebiT iyreboda xmebi, 1999-Sic ase iyo, mere ufro daxvewes teqnologiebi _ mrCevelebi bevri hyavT da daiwyes egzitpolebi, siebis damaxinjeba, `karuselebi~ da kidev vin icis, ramdeni ram arsebobs, magram rogor davujeroT im xalxs, romelic 1995 wlidan aq iyo, eswreboda arCevnebs da ver dainaxa verc erTi darRveva! _ amaze miganiSnebdiT, pativcemuli `mkvlevarebi~ da damkvirveblebi TviTon xom ar arian `dasakvirveblebi~ da Tan safuZvlianad dasakvirveblebi? `arCevnebi Catarda demokratiulad, mcire darRvevebiT~ _ me mxolod amgvari `dakvirvebis Sedegebi~ maxsovs... _ 1999 wlis arCevenebidan erT faqts gavixseneb _ kaspSi gvyavda erTi Zalian aqtiuri aqtivisti qalbatoni komisiaSi. damkvirvebeli iyo, ar maxsovs, danieli iyo Tu belgieli qali, 8-is naxevarze sinaTle rom Caaqres da Semovidnen tomrebiT, es patara qali, aqtivisti, rom gadaefara urnas wivil-kiviliT, ver aaglijes verafriT. atyda CoCqoli. sibneleSi, am Cxubsa da aliaqoTSi veRar gaarCies da am ucxoels moxvda muSti, saxis cali mxare gvarianad Caulurjda. mokled, xmebi Caiyara da daiwera daskvna, rom yvelaferi normalurad Catarda, yovelgvari darRvevis gareSe. meore dRes preskonferencia movawyveT da es qalic iq iyo. saidan gaqvT saxeze es silurje-meTqi. raRacas davejaxeo. ki ar daejaxe, gcemes Se usindiso, ra fuli gaqvs aRebuli, rom gagxeTqes cemiT da xels awer daskvnas, rom yvelaferi kargad Catarda, darRveva ar dafiqsirebula-meTqi... ai, esaa damkvirveblebi! #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. ra moxdeba da rogor moxdeba, ar vici, magram ivaniSvili mova xelisuflebaSi, namdvilad mova! 1995 wlidan ramdeni arCevnebi Catarda da nuTu verasdros veravin dainaxa seriozuli darRveva? _ amitom ar mwams amaTi. _ am oriode dRis win saakaSvilis megobrebi, pativcemu li ucxoeli stumrebi, xalxis arCevanis pativismcemlebi rom iyvnen Camosulebi, rogor ggoniaT, marTla xalxis nebis mxardasaWerad Camovidnen? iq neb, piriqiT, megobari gaamxneves da amitomac dagvigdes sityva, damarcxebulma Rirseulad unda miiRos xalxis arCevanio... _ axla situacia cota Seicvala da ratom iciT, TviTon, es xelisufleba imdenad aris diskreditebuli saerTaSoriso asparezze, imdenad gaigo yvelam, rom es yvelaferi blefia, tyuilia, ra demokratia, ris demokratia, rom maTi ganwyoba Seicvala... am xelisuflebam imdeni rame akadra saqarTvelos mosaxleobas, rom aRaraferi darCaT saTqmeli, erTaderTi, rac darCaT, esaa daSineba da terori, rasac vxvdebiT kidec yvelgan. iciT, ra aris yvelaze cudi da miuRebeli, nebismieri wyobis mTavroba, simarTliT iqneba Tu sicruiT, cdilobs sakuTari xalxis gulis mogebas, cdilobs, moaCvenos, rom maTze mzrunvelia _ am xelisuflebam esec dakarga, srulebiT ar ainteresebs mosaxleobis azri. am xelisuflebam icis, rom amdeni motyuebis Semdeg aRaravin daujerebs da es Zalian saxifaToa – xelisufleba, romelic aRar cdilobs, rom Tavisi xalxis gu- li moigos, totalitarizmidan tiraniaSi gadadis, Zaladobis nebismieri formiT ecdeba, rom Tavi gadairCinos. xalxisTvis Tavmowonebaze vlaparakob da, rac amaT biZina ivaniSvils gaukeTes, romel CarCoSi jdeba, romel saxelmwifos SeiZleba rom SevadaroT amaTi qmedeba _ yvelaferze midian, rom Tavi da is mitacebuli Tanxebi gadairCinon, romlebic ofSorebSi aqvT. maT kargad ician, rom xalxi Tu ar SeSindeba, pasuxs mosTxovs yvela im danaSaulze, rac Caidines, amitom, amaTgan yvelaferia mosalodneli. me minda vuTxra mosaxleobas, rom tyuilad eSiniaT. ki, undaT, rom hyavdeT daSinebuli da aSineben, magram arafris Tavi aRar aqvT. _ rac saqarTvelos sWirs, ar fiqrobT, rom garedan marTuli procesia? _ ra Tqma unda, damRupveli mrCevelebis. soflis meurneobas rom ase moeqcevi da raRac romelic produqcias qmnis. Sen waarTvi am xalxs wyali, teqnika, miwa da bolos samSoblo, sxva qveynebSi mosamsaxureebad gaaqcie da damcirebul mdgomareobaSi Caagde. ratom? imitom, rom ase girCies mrCevelebma... daacarieles soflebi da mere, kidev, erTi damafiqrebeli momentia _ Cveni tradiciebi damyarebulia patriarqatze, ojaxis keTildReoba iyo yovelTvis misi mamoZravebeli mizani, ai, amas klaven – ra ojaxi unda iyos da ra mamakacur siamayeze SeiZleba laparaki, roca ojaxis deda wlobiT wasulia ucxoeTSi da iqidan inaxavs qmar-Svils, vin icis, ra moralurad da fizikurad mZime SromiT – daingra ukve qarTuli tradicia. es yvelaferi gaTvlilili iyo da ase dagvingries qveyana, gaaubedures saqarTvelos mosaxleoba... ra moxdeba da rogor moxdeba, ar vici, magram ivaniSvili mova, namdvilad mova! monobisTvis gawira da is momTmeni aRaraa... xalxis nawilSi iciT, ra igrZnoba _ `kargi, nu damaxrCob axla, me vici, saarCevno urnasTan ras vizam...~ qarTvel kacs gonierebas ver waarTmev, qarTvel kacs rom gonebrivi potenciali aqvs genetikurad, nu Seedrebian viRac-viRacebi, rom trabaxoben – es xalxi mixvda erT rames, rom es biZina ar ityueba, is fulis saSovnelad ar Camosula saqarTveloSi. is 5 mlrd, romelic gadagdebuli aqvT amaT, aq moitans, aqeT daxarjavs Tavisas. kargi gaTvla gaakeTa erTma Cvenma megobarma, yoveldRe rom 1 mln. dolari xarjos, 18 weli eyofa da ra unda undodes kacs, romelsac yvelaferi aqvs? me didi xania biZinas vicnob da sanam politikaSi gamoCndeboda, bevri gvaqvs nalaparakevi – sul gancdebSi iyo. biZinas ojaxsac kargad vicnob, Wuris Tavze rom moatarebda xels mamamisi, aba, ro- 7-8 %-ze laparakob, ukve aRar xar am qveynis adamiani – es socialuri problemaa da ara 7-8 procenti. saqarTveloSi ormocdaaT procentze meti, e.i saqarTvelos mosaxleobis naxevarze meti soflad cxovrobs, amden xalxs rom wirav, genocidi ar aris? _ milionnaxevari kacia wasuli saqarTvelodan, is ZiriTadi Zala, amoiwura yvelanairad amaTi xelisuflebaSi darCenis perspeqtiva. sul davdivar sofelsofel da vatyob _ SiSis sindromi Zlieri iyo, magram am aqciebma didi gavlena moaxdina, modis xalxi da aRar eSiniaT. iciT, rogor aris _ qarTveli kaci momTmeni kaci gamodga, uZlebs, rom ojaxSi xan xorci ar aqvs da xan xaWapuri da sacivi, rac yovelTvis hqonda, itans, magram imas veRar itans, sakuTari STamomavlobis uperspeqtivoba rom dainaxa. qarTveli kaci ojaxiT cocxlobs da Svili Tu SviliSvili an unda wavides aqedan, an monobaSi unda iyos – es dainaxa da ukve veRar Cerdeba, ukve sakuTar Tavs adanaSaulebs, rom sakuTari modgma meli gavsinjoTo _ ubralo glexis ojaxidan gamosuli kacia biZina da uniWieresi kaci gamodga, xom? ramdenjerme SevuTvale benduqiZeebs (mase vuwodeb magaT yvelas erTad, viTom eqspertebi rom arian soflis meurneobis sakiTxebSi), modiT, damijeqiT debatebSi-meTqi, magram ar movidnen, kurdRlebi arian. axla rom movida axali premieri da daiwyo biZinas sityvebis gameoreba _ ra xalxi arian, ra gundia aseTi, rom, roca sofels klavdnen, vinc Tavs giqnevdaT, axla ki ambobs, sofelio, ratom ar ekamaTebian, ra sofelio? es modis 1996 wlidan, valavi iyo savaluto fondidan, maSin daiwyo, rom saqarTveloSi mevenaxeoba uperspeqtivo ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~ internetSi www.saertogazeti.com ze SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-z #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. ariso ... ramdeni Cxubi mqonda... iciT, ra aris yvelaze sawyeni? SeiZleba, emsaxurebode raRac ideas, magram rom ici, klav Seni qveynis ekonomikas da nacvlad imis aRiarebisa, rom SegeSala, TuTiyuSiviT imeoreb, rad gvinda sofeli, visa aqvs sofelio. singapurs sada aqvs miwa, kaco, erTi qalaqia singapuri! _ iqneb Tqven mainc amixsnaT, ra aCemebaa singapuri, singapurSi singapureli sanTliT aris saZebari da amaSi unda mivbaZoT? _ ra Tqma unda! mere, romel warmatebul qveyanas ar aqvs soflis meurneoba _ amaze misaubria maTTan. erTma Sveicaria momiyvna magaliTad, iqo, 5% aqvs soflis meurneobaso. tyui-meTqi! Sen rom angariSob rZe ramdeni miiRo, im rZidan ramdeni ramec gakeTda, 40%-ze metze adis. Sveicaria sabanko qveyanaa, magram soflis meurneoba awyobili aqvT Zalian Zlierad, Tavisi xili da bostneuli aqvs, ratom Seitans sxvisas _ aba, Cven rom vakeTebT, egaa saqme? _ kaspi aq gvqondes da xaxvi da niori egviptidan Semogvqondes? _ ki, batono, egviptidan SemoaqvT _ eseni arian qveynis gamyidvelebi, amaT, am eqspertebs unda moeTxovos pasuxi da maTTan erTad yvela im Jurnalists, milionobiT xalxs rom atyueben. Sen ici, rom sxva informaciis wyaro raionSi ar aqvT, gamodixar da atyueb? vin aris es `imedi~, `rusTavi2~, `real-tv~ _ laparaki ar aris Jurnalistur eTikaze, adamianobazea laparaki _ ar grcxvenia amas rom akeTeb? Cveni adaT-wesebi Rirebulia, rom garyveniT mTeli saqarTvelos axalgazrdoba, marto Tqven ar mogwonT? _ damRupvels rom laparakoben da mainc jiutad imeoreben... benduqiZe Tu wuxs saqarTveloze, egec Zalian mdidari kacia, oRond aqidan gatanili fuliT gamdidrda, biZinas rom akritikeben, erTi qvelmoqmedeba miTxran ra gaukeTebiaT TviTon. es kiTxva unda dasvas xalxma _ benduqiZe, Senc xom Zalian mdidari xar, ivaniSvils araferi wauRia saqarTvelodan, Sen ki, aqedan gatacebuli fuliT vauCerebis spekulaciiT gaxdi Zalian mdidari kaci, rame vali ar gaqvs im qveynis xalxis winaSe, vinc gagamdidra? _ es amaT yvelas exeba. ivaniSvils rom akritikeb, raRac baza xom unda gqondeT... _ moraluri ufleba. _ morali sada aqvT, kaco, qveyana gayides! aqamde yvelgan iyvnen, `kavkasiazec~ gamodiodnen `maestrozec~ _ axla ratom aRar gamodixarT, vanosi geSiniaT? aaa, saerTo gazeTi biZinasi ar geSiniaT? _ mova biZina da mogeTxovebaT pasuxi yvelaferze, rac CaidineT saqarTveloSi! _ biZinas mosvlas arCvenebi uZRvis win, arCevnebi ki amomrCevelia, sxvas yvelafers Tavi rom davaneboT, 1 100 000 kaci ukve miwerilia siebSi xelisuflebis sasargeblod, anu arCevenebis Sedegebi ukve gayalbebulia... _ Tu biZina, es uWkvianesi kaci iseTi miamiti ggoniaT, rom yuradRebas ar aqcevs gayalbebis saSualebebsa da meTodebs, Zalian cdebiT. eseni yaCaRoben _ eubnebian, es kaci 12 wlis win mokvdao da ara, mainc Cawerilia siaSi... kardakar xom iares, miviReT, rom Turme 3 600 000 amomrCeveli gvyavs saqarTveloSi. amdeni amomrCeveli ki ara, amdeni mosaxleoba Tu gvyavs? _ es erTi. meore, ucxoeTSi ar dautoves xmis micemis Sansi, erTi, rom aralegari xmas ver micems da meore, damatebiTi sirTuleebi Seitanes da ratom _ ucxoeTSi gaqceuli milionze meti saqarTvelos moqalaqe amaTi mowinaaRmdegea. mere kidev, rogor SeiZleba, rom cixeSi patimari da probacioneri amaTi momxre iyos, Tu najaxiT ar adganan Tavze, (brladebulTa 70% viciT, rom usafuZvlod zis) an maTi ojaxis wevrebi _ es yvelaferi daTvlilia da amas analizi gaukeTdeba. prevenciuli zomebi miRebulia, nu ggoniaT, rom ase miSvebulebi arian... ar aris ase martivad saqme, mTeli msoflio dadgeba fexze... _ kargiT ra, romeli msoflio, mxolod aRSfoTe bas da SeSfoTebas rom ga moTqvams Cvens ubedurebaze? _ Cven saubari imiT daviwyeT, vendobi Tu ara amaT gamokvlevebs da damkvirveblebs _ ar vendobi, imitom, rom maqvs praqtika, scemes nen davalebiT, Tvals xuWavdnen bevr rameze, magram aRar aris ase – ratom mocvivda yvela aq? _ realur Sedegamde mainc ver SemacvlevinebT azrs _ xelisuflebis gasamxneveb lad. msoflio akvirdeba am arCevnebs – faqtebs davudebT win, rom gayalbebulia. manamde 29-Si gamovalT... yvela saarCevno ubanTan xalxi idgeba. iq iqnebian ara lematuri gaxdeba. upirvelesad is vTqvaT, rom ruseTi yovelTvis dampyrobeli qveyana iyo da aseTad rCeba dRemde miwebis mitacebis didostatad, ager kuriliis kunZulebs 50 welia ar Tmobs, avadmyofoba aqvs aseTi, magram daTmobs Cvens teritoriebs, amis yvela monacemi arsebobs... _ ar vici, ras gulisx mobT, magram mezobel qveya nasTan rom normaluri dip - mxolod komisiis wevrebi, damkvirveblebi, aramed 4-5 adamiani, Cven magas vTxoulobT, romelic dawers ramdeni kaci Sevida. 200 kaci rom Sevida, 1200 iyoo, ver dawers... xalxma unda icodes, rom bevr rames veRar gabedaven da tyuian, roca amboben, Cven ukve mogebuli gvaqvso. amas imitom acxadeben, rom xalxi SeSindes, xelisuflebaSi isev eseni rCebiano _ ar aris ase da daijereT! axla imis realuri Sansi gagviCnda, rom SegviZlia Cveni qveyana, Cveni Svilebi da SviliSvilebi gadavarCinoT da mere, SeiZleba, es Sansi aRar iyos, gadaaylapeben eseni da gadagvylapaven kidec es didi saxelmwifoebi Tavis interesebiT. Sansi gagviCnda, rom iseTi kaci gvyavdes xelmZRvanelad, romelic xalxs eyvareba, aTas sikeTes gaakeTebs, marTla qali da kargad Catarda yvelaferio, magram dRes aRar dauWeren mxars. Zalian bevri ucxoeli Camodis, Zalian bevr ucxoelTan saubrobs biZina da saubroben Cemi kolegebi – gaocebuli arian ucxoelebi, aRar aris is ganwyoba, rom es Suquraa demokratiis... ki, roca iyv- amogvwevs am Waobidan, davadgebiT im gzas, romelic saqarTvelos arnaxuli renesansisken wagviyvans. or-sam welSi saqarTvelos veRar icnobT _ vici misi gegmebi. _ ruseTis faqtorze ras ityviT. _ ruseTisTvis saqarTvelos dakargva Zalian prob- lomatiuri urTierToba un da gvqondes, es udavoa... _ meorec, vTqvaT, ekonomikis mxriv, aseTi istoriebiT ras mivaRwevT? _ erTi ram axseniT, rac ram hqonda saqarTvelos, vgulisxmob strategiul obieqtebs, yvelaferi ruseT zea gadacemuli da ratomRaa Seracxuli mtrad? _ amaTTvis, Cemo kargo, sul erTia, vin iqneba da ras mihyidis, vinc mets miscems, yvelafers imas mihyidis. aqvea, mezoblad, ruseTma dainaxa amaTi es sisuste da dro ixelTa. eseni rom xelisuflebaSi darCnen, kidev bevr rames mihyidis... ruseTisTvis gadacemuli Zalian bevri obieqtis gamosyidvas da saqarTvelosTvis datovebas apirebs biZina. _ rkinigza da gazsadeniRa dagvrCa, sxva raRa dagvrCa ruseTisTvis saintereso... _ dagvrCa, Zalian didi resursi dagvrCa. wyali! _ wyali ar unda gaiyidos! 5-6 wlis Semdeg navTobze gacilebiT Zviri iqneba wyali... mag Temaze bevria salaparako _ Cven xom arc is viciT ra da rogor gaiyida – engurhesis SeTanxmeba viciT, hesebi rom Sendeba, SeTanxmebis pirobebi viciT? _ ar aris sajaro, magram es yvelaferi gamoaSkaravdeba da movTxovT pasuxs, amitom arian dafeTebulni. _ kuTxeSi mimwyvdeuli agresiuli adamiani gacile biT agresiuli xdeba... _ Sedegi? ra miiRes axlo aRmosavleTSi – es axla xmaurobs, Torem mSiSaraa, msoflios aqvs nanaxi misi samarcxvino kadrebi. arCevnebamde boboqroben, rom xalxi daSindes, Torem arafris Tavi aRar aqvT, miT ufro imis, rom msoflios daupirispirdnen... maia WeliZe xalxis azriT 8 welia xelisuflebaSi rom xar da ase 500, 700 an 600 (miSam daawyo ase) aTasi adamianis mets rom ver miiyvan (gamoiyvan) aqciaze, aSkarad wagebuli gaqvs... ratom? 6 Tvis CanasaxSi myof partias 200 -250 aTasi adamiani ar unda gamoyavdes Sen rom kargi iyo da imitooom... gaigeviT? ise.. am beCavma (gnebavT, bedSavma) ,rogor yvelaferi biZinaCemisgan gadaiRo, maisurebi, es qalaqebSi Sexvedrebi... magram naZaladevis da SaSinebulis.... ojaxTan Caxuteba mere? :)) erTi bavSvebs ver gaarepina da beraze daiboRma :))) amxela oylayi baRanaze rom daiboRmeba!!!!!!!!!!!! gana marto garepvis unari da niWi, beras dedac Surs, mamac, ojaxic da yvelaferi, rac mag bedSavs bavSvobaSic ar hqonia! aq viRaceebs marTla hgonia, rom dRes, xalxi, nebayoflobiT mivida nacmos yrilobaze, Tu Tavs iStereben? ui, quTaisSi “ocnebaze” meti ver Sekriba. visac aiZuleben mobiluriT gadaiRon Semoxazuli 5-ani. SemoxazeT 5-ani, gadauReT mobiliT, mere gadaxazeT, gaafuWeT biuleteni. visac aiZuleben ukve gamzadebuli, 5-an Semoxazuli biuleteni Seitanon da sanacvlod carieli gamoitanon. SegaqvT 5an Semoxazuli biuleteni, amave biuletens afuWebT da gamogaqvT carieli biuleteni. quTaiselma megobarma damireka. saswauli ambavi xdebodao. davdiodi im xalxSi da sanTliT veZebdi quTaislebso. maSrutkebiT Camoyvanilebi iyvnen yvelao. Semecodneno, mSivrebi, natanjebi da damorcxvebulebi. mag SantaJists xmas rogor mivcemTo. dRes TbilisSi bevri xalxi darboda maisurebiT ”me miyvars saqarTvelo”.... Tqve dalocvilebo Tu ase giyvarT saqarTvelo, ratom garbodiT 2008 wlis agvistoSi Tbilisidan? an ratom gaiqeciT imitirebuli qronikis Semdeg? suli ufro tkbilia ara? arafers gsayvedurobT! magram nu damimtkicebT, rom Cemze magrad giyvarT es qveyana yvela sakvanZo persona ucxoeTiTan iyo Camosuli erTi konketuli mowodebiT-arCevnebi Catardes samarTlianad, gviTxres, rom es iqneba lakmusis testi, yrilobaze kidev miSa misi gundianad xmamaRla acxadebs rom egRa aklia xelisufleba mumiebs gadaabaros da rom ar dauSvebs xalxis gamosvlas da eqneba meti sargebeli xalxs. hoda, sul ufro ikveTeba nacmos ganzraxva arCevnebis totalurad gapravebis, mere represiebis, im xalxis, vinc gabedavs da gaaprotestebs, mokled siamovnebiT gaviRviZebdi noembris 1-Si ukeTesi momavlis imediT 7 8 saerTo gazeTi `saerTo gazeTis~ mkiTxvels emaxsovreba Cemi da Cemi Zmobili qisti maxmad margoSvils saubrebi, pankisis xeobaSi momZlavrebuli vahabituri moZraobebis Sesaxeb. `vgrZnob, xeobaSi xelovnurad Canergili vahabizmi, ara mxolod Cven, pankisel qistebs, aramed Cvens samezobloSi mosaxle qarTvelebsac did problemebs Seuqmnis, amitom saerTo Wirs axlave Tu ar mivxedeT, Semdeg gviani iqneba da sisxlic daiRvrebao~-o Semodgomaa... saqarTvelos xelisufleba da mosaxleoba erTdroulad imkis im codvebs, rac pankisis xeobaSi 90-iani wlebis dros CaiTesa, e.i. grZelvadian SuRls, grZelvadian gaugebrobas da aseve grZelvadian sisxlian dapirispirebas. es mxolod mcire nawilia im CamoTvlili Wirisa, rasac 84 wlis uxucesi CemTan interviuebSi cremlmoreuli aRniSnavda da aha, Turme ra marTali yofila?! iqneb icis vinmem saqarTvelos dedaqalaq TbilisSi, respublikur saavadmyofoSi ra `damsaxurebebisTvis~ mkurnalobda saerTaSoriso teroristi doku umarovi, romelic TviT `rusTavi-2~ ki daafiqsira Tavis videokameriT da Cvenc gvaCvena?! metic, 2011 wlis 26 maiss, amerikis SeerTebuli Statebis saxelmwifo departamenti `kavkasiis imarats~ teroristul organizaciad rom acxadebs da aq, saqarTveloSi, `imaratis~ araerTi xelmZRvanelis, araerTi mebrZolis uvneblad gadaadgilebis momswre rom xdeba _ ar aris logikuri, daisvas kiTxva _ saakaSvili ukanonod SeiaraRebul jgufebad kavSirSi xom ar aris da rogor xdeba isic, rom amerikis viTomcda mokavSire saqarTvelos xelisufleba sinamdvileSi rusuli gegmis nawilad iqca? zustad 3 wlis win ruseTis oficialurma warmomadgenelma `natoSi~ dimitri rogozinma, CemTan interviuSi gancvifreba ver damala saqarTvelos xelisuflebis siTavxedeze imis gamo, rom saqarTvelos xelisufleba aSkarad da urcxvad TbilisSi saerTa- #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. Soriso terorist doku umarovs mfarvelobda da misTvis rusi samxedroebis mier nasroli tyviiT miyenebuli Wrilobebis moSuSebaSi exmareboda!!! igive interviuSi, dimitri rogozini saqarTvelos xelisuflebas afrTxilebda, rom ruseTisTvis cnobili iyo, saakaSvilis keTilganwyobiT Seqmnili bandformirebebis Sesa- lebTan, xangoSvilebTan, cixesaSvilebTan da a.S. hoda 18 agvistos sisxliani movlenebis Semdeg, rasakvirvelia, davukavSirdi am adamianebs, wvrilad gamovkiTxe, ra moxda, ra situacia iyo im xanad xeobaSi da maTzec xom ar iyo zewola _ Cumad yofiliyvnen? Cems pirvel SekiTxvaze _ icodnen Tu ara, vin iyvnen saflaveTo! ar gamova eg ambavi, ara... amaT saqoneli vgonivarT, pirutyvebi... axla, axla ra viTarebaa mand, siwynarea? _ amas Tu siwynare hqvia... axalgazrdebi dagvixvrites. gveubnebian, xma ar amoiRoT Torem, Tqvenc igive mogivaTo da gvaxseneben im dros, roca Cven udanaSaulo axalgazrdoba aq pankisSi sakuTar ezoebSi daxoces da aafeTqes. eee, rac Cven gadavitaneT, ena ver ityvis. ar SevarCenT arc petres da arc danarCenebs am ambavs... _ xalxi ras ambobs, qarTvelebze Zalian gabrazebulebi arian? _ Cemo dao, xalxma ra daaSava, an qarTvelma da an qistma? Cven ubralo xalxi marto Wirisuflebad gvaqcia saakaSvilmac da putinmac! aba, Sexede qarTvel da qist mok- lafanyuri _ saqarTvelos bermudis samkuTxedi xeb da metic, batoni rogozini, imasac ambobda, rom maTTvisac cnobili iyo saqarTvelos teritoriaze im `banakebis~ adgilmdebareoba, sadac `boevikebi~ iwvrTnebodnen da bazirebdnen!!! raoden gasakviric ar unda iyos, maSin igive informaciebs flobdnen rigiTi pankiselebic da rigiTi lafanyurelebic, magram isini rogozinisgan gansxvavebiT, ukanono formirebebis kontrolSi, rogorc qarTvel Zalovanebs, ise ruseTis specsamsaxurebsac adanaSaulebdnen. `saerTo gazeTis~ mkiTxvels kargad moexseneba, rom kaxeli var da logikurad, saqarTvelos am kuTxeSi ufro meti nacnobi myavs, vidre sxvagan... vicnob glexsac, maswavlebelsac, eqimsac da im `nacebsac~, romelTac Sublis ZarRvi jer bolomde ar gawyvetiaT. rogorc werilis dasawyisSive avRniSne, saukeTeso urTierTobebi mqonda da maqvs, ZirZvel qistebTan _ margoSvi- `qarTulma ocnebam~ sasamarTloSi sarCeli Seitana blokma „biZina ivaniSvili - qarTuli ocneba“ saqarTvelos sakonsuloebSi emigrantebis amomrCevlebad daregistrirebis wesis gamartivebis moTxovniT, cesko–s winaaRmdeg sasamarTloSi sarCeli Seitana. sarCeli Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTloSi “qarTuli ocnebis“ warmomadgenelma zurab maraqveliZem Seitana. misi TqmiT, saqarTvelos centraluri saarCevno komisiis 9 seqtembris dadgenilebis Tanaxmad, ucxoeTSi mcxovrebi qarTvelebi amomrCevlad dasaregistirireblad uSualod unda gamocxadnen registraciis adgilas, rac maT seriozul barierebs uqmnis. rogorc maraqveliZe ganmartavs, 9 seqtembris dadgenilebiT, magaliTad, milanSi da italiis sxva qalaqebSi mcxovrebma qarTvelebma registracia saelCoSi, anu romSi unda gaiaron. iq Casasvlelad ki erT samuSao dRis dakargva mouwevT, rac maT problemebs Seuqmnis. „aRniSnuli barieri xelovnuradaa Seqmnili. moqalaqeebs daregistrirebis saSualeba fostiT unda miscemodaT, sabuTebs Seagrovebdnen da fostiT gagzavnidnen. magram cesko–m procedura gaarTula. „qarTuli ocneba“ ceskos am gadawyvetilebas asaCivrebs moklulebi? mipasuxes, rom _ icodnen! isec miTxres, rom es biWebi ramdenime dRis win Camovidnen, ufro sworad, Camoiyvanes. vin Camoiyvana? _ SevekiTxe me... _ visTanac am wlebis ganmavlobaSi urTierToba hqondaT, saqmiani urTierToba! xvdebi, xom? micvalebulebi vinc arian, yvela daasaflaveT? _ yvela ara, ar gvaZleven! _ ratom ar iZlevian, xom ar uTqvamT? _ SevekiTxe me... _ vinc gadmogvces, isinic sul dacxrilulebi arian, TiTqos daxvriteso, aki, aCvenes, `spalnimeSokebSi~ iyvnen isev, eZinaT da daxvrites. saceriviT aqvT tani. tyeSi, Tanac brZolaSi, es gamoricxulia... `imaT gviTxres, didi ambavi da samZimrebi ar gindaT, CumaT ubralod daa- lulebs, TiTqos erTi dedis Svilebi ariano, iseTi lamazebi, iseTi jiSianebi arian! ubralo qarTvelebis mimarT ra pretenziebi unda gvqondes? ra, qarTvelma mSoblebma icodnen da ician risTvis moukles Svilebi? ratom iyvnen saceriviT dacxriluli qisti da CeCeni mebrZolebi? anda ras niSnavda `rusTavi-2~-is naCvenebi is kadrebi, romelSic naTlad Cans, rom zogierTi `boeviki~ isev saZile tomaraSia da ara da moiTxovs, rom ucxoeTSi mcxovreb Tanamemamuleebs mieceT saSualeba, damatebiTi dabrkolebis gareSe miiRon monawileoba arCevnebSi“, – ganacxada maraqveliZem. `qarTuli dasi~ 2 oqtombridan aqciebs iwyebs politikuri partia ”qarTuli dasi” 2 oqtombridan aqciebs iwyebs. rogorc dRes gamarTul preskonferenciaze partiis liderma jondi baRaTuriam ganacxada, aqciebi, saxelwodebiT ,,daicavi sakuTari xma“ permamentuli iqneba. misive TqmiT, aqciebi 23 dRis ganmavlobaSi Tbilisisa da quTaisSi parlamentis SenobebTan, aseve prezidentis rezidenciasTan gaimarTeba. rogorc man aRniSna, aqciebi im SemTxvevaSic gaimarTeba, Tu gamocxadebuli maCveneblebi arCevnebis realur Sedegebs ar asaxavs. ,,Tematuri xasiaTis aqciebi arCevnebis realuri Sedegebis gamoqveynebas, konstituciuri wyobis dacvas da qveyanaSi stabilurobis dacvas emsaxureba,” - ganacxada baRaTuriam aqciis Catarebis nebarTvis misaRebad Tbilisisa da quTaisis merebs ”qarTuli dasis” warmomadgenlebi ganacxadebiT xval mimarTaven. `medianiusi~ romelime xesTan Casafrebul mdgomareobaSi? nuTu marTla miparviT da muxanaTurad Cacxrila es axalgazrdebi, Cvenma naqebma specdaniSnulebis batalionma? es Tu marTlac ase moxda _ ra hqvia amas da ra gagrZeleba SeiZleba mohyves yovelives, ar unda gvafiqrebdes? rac yvelaze mniSvnelovania sazogadoebas ratom gvimalaven im danarCeni `diversantebis~ vinaobas, visi gvamebic prozeqturaSi aqvT gamoketili da imazec arafers gveubnebian, amJamad modulis SenobaSi ramden `diversants~ urtyamen `aRiarebiTi Cvenebis~ miRebis molodinio? Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo! ucnaurad ar geCvenebaT, rom uaxlesi iaraRebiT aRWurvili adamianebis jgufs karga xniT adrec xedavdnen lafanyurelebi da pankiselebi? metic, isini ara mxolod aq mcxovreb adamianebTan Sediodnen kontaqtSi, aramed ZalovanebTanac? mTeli am xnis ganmavlobaSi ratom ar aiyvanes mZevlebi maT da roca viTom aiyvanes, fuli aCuqes, samxedro `baTinkic~ aCuqes da ise gamouSves? ratom iZaxis erT-erTi `mrevlis~ mezobeli kaci _ eg, biWebi suyvela `nac.moZraobis wevrebi~ arian da mZevladac aravisa hyoliao?~ dameTanxmeT, rom ruseTis xelisuflebis dumili, CeCneTis xelisuflebis dumili, saqarTvelos xelisuflebisa da misi opoziciis dumili `lafanyuris omis~ Sesaxeb imaze met kiTxvas badebs, vidre dasasmelia da vkiTxulob kidec _ amjeradac, yvelam erTad, ruseTis Canafiqrs, gegmebs xom ar Seuwyo xeli Semdgomi moqmedebisTvis da lopotidan `lopota~-s (rusulad-gancxroma, netareba) mdgomareobaSi xom ar Caagdo kremlis mesveurebi `barambos~ kanfetebis TanxlebiT? erTaderTi, rac am sisxlian tragediaSi mkafiod gamoikveTa, is aris, rom moklulia 14 adamiani, 3 qarTveli jariskaci da 11 e.w. diversanti, romelTa sisxlsac aravis SearCenen Crdilokavkasielebi da romlebmac swored amitom gamoucxades `jihadi~ _saakaSvils, merabiSvils, axalaias da SaSkins. Tanac, rogorc qistebi, ise lafanyurelebi pirad saubrebSi Riad acxadeben, rom araferi ar damTavrebula, piriqiT yvelaferi axla daiwyo da verdiqti gamotaniliao. daakvirdiT? 14 adamiani imsxverpla satanam, mariamoba dRes! astrologiur cifrTa gadaangariSebiT ki, naxeT, rogor gamodis? 14 es cifri aris 1-ianisa da oTxianis erToblioba. jamSi ki 1+4 tolia 5-is da netav, vin arian am cifris motrfialeebi? diax, nacmoZraobis sayvareli cifria 5 da axla dafiqrdiT, SemTxveviTia es? irine gogosaSvili #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi malxaz wereTeli: `WiaTurmanganumis~ xelovnuri gakotreba 12 000 aqcionerisa da maTi ojaxis wevrebisaTvis mudmiv da mouSuSebel Wrilobad darCeba... erT-eerTi yvelaze warmmatebuli sawarmmos, saaqc cio sazogad doeba `WiaTurmmanganummis~~ gakotrebis anatommiis, farTo sazogad doebisaTvis uc cnob detalebze politikuri koalicia `biZina ivaniSvili-qqarTucnebis~~ WiaTuris maJorili oc tari deputatobis kand did dati malxaz wereTeli gvesaubreba. _ batono malxaz, yovelgvari familarobis gareSe minda mogmarToT: Tqveni ganvlili gziT, cxovrebis wesiT, adamianuri TvisebebiT WiaTuraSi erT-eerT gamorCeuli pirovneba brZandebiT. ramdenad sakmarisia es, rom parlamentSi WiaTurelTa rCeuli gaxdeT? _ gmadlobT, aseTi SefasebisaTvis. meuxerxuleba sakuTar Tavze laparaki, magram mainc Sevecdebi gipasuxoT. politikaSi axalfexadgmuli ar meTqmis _ wlebia, WiaTuris municipalitetis sakrebulos wevri var. Cemi warsuliTac SemiZlia viamayo, Tumca Cemi, rogorc deputatobis kandidatis upiratesobas (mepatios pirdapiroba) erTi ramec ganapirobebs. me, malxaz wereTeli, viqnebi saaqcio sazogadoeba `WiaTurmanganumis~ im 12 aTasze meti aqcioneris uflebaTa damcveli saqarTvelos parlamentSi, romlebic am sawarmos xelovnurad gakotrebis msxverplni gaxdnen. aseTi meTodiT gakotrebam mZime dartyma miayena `WiaTurmanganumis~ aqcionerebis qonebriv mdgomareobas, rac maTi ojaxebisTvis dRemde mouSuSebeli Wrilobaa. saqarTvelos parlamentis wevrad arCevis SemTxvevaSi, erT-erTi upirvelesi sazrunavi am aqcionerTa uflebebis aRdgena iqneba _ yvelafers viRoneb, rom Seiqmnas saparlamento komisia `WiaTurmanganumis~ gakotrebis detalebis dasadgenad da samarTlianobis aRsadgenad. aqve ganvmartav: am saqmis gamoZieba xels ar SeuSlis Sps `jorjian manganezis~ samTo gamamdidrebeli kombinatis muSaobas, romelic `WiaTurmanganumis~ qonebis bazaze agrZelebs muSaobas, Tumca misi samarTalmemkvidre ar aris. _ iqneb mkiTxvels ufro detalurad ganumartoT, rogor gaakotres `WiaTurmanganumi~ xelovnurad? _ saaqcio sazogadoeba `WiaTurmanganumis~ qonebaze gakotrebis saqmis wamowyebis Semdeg maleve, sasamarTlos ganCinebiT, sawarmo reabilitaciis reJimze gadaiyvanes. ramdenime Tvis ganmavlobaSi manganumis mopoveba da mTlianad sawarmoo procesi, erTi SexedviT, Cveulebriv reJimSi Cadga... magram maleve kvlav daiwyo gakotrebis saqmis warmoeba. gakotrebis mmarTvelad Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetis profesori, advokati roin migriauli daniSnes. mis saxelTan aris dakavSirebuli saqarTveloSi samarTlis am dargis ganviTareba. vfiqrobdiT, rom cnobil iurists saqmis gamrudebulad warmarTvas veravin gaubedavda. batoni roin migriauli, rogorc mosalodneli iyo, Seudga dakisrebuli movaleobis kvalificiurad Sesrulebas, `gakotrebis saqmeTa warmoebis Sesaxeb~ saqarTvelos imdroindeli kanonis Sesabamisad, rac iTvaliswinebs: mZime ekonomikur mdgomareobaSi Cavardnili movalis ekonomikuri da finansuri siZneleebis gadawyvetas, agreTve misi kreditorebis interesebis maqsimalurad dakmayofilebas. saqmis warmoeba movalis gadarCena-gajansaRebamde unda misuliyo... magram saqme sxvagvarad warimarTa. ar vici, ra weria oficialur dokumentebSi, ra mizeziT datova roin migriaulma gakotrebis mmarTvelis Tanamdeboba daniSvnidan or TveSi, magram cnobilia realuri motivi _ man igrZno, rom igi SesaZloa, antisaxelmwifoebrivi saqmianobis monawile gamxdariyo, Tuki `WiaTurmanganumis~ aqciaTa sakontrolo paketis mflobelis _ ekonomikis saministros nebas daTanxmdeboda.... axal mmarTvelad iuristi daviT kakabaZe dainiSna... _ intervius SesavalSive aRniSneT, rom sawarmos gakotrebiT dartyma miiRo 12 aTasze metma aqcionerma. rodis da rogor gaxdnen isini aqcionerebi? _ XX saukunis 90-ian wlebSi, rodesac Cvens qveyanaSi privatizebis procesi daiwyo, sawarmo gaerTianeba `WiaTurmanganumi~ gardaiqmna saaqcio sazogadoebad, romlis aqciaTa 100 procenti saxelmwifos sakuTrebas warmoadgenda. prezident eduard SevardnaZis brZanebulebiT, am aqciaTa sami procenti SromiTi koleqtivis 12 aTasze met TanamSromels usasyidlod gadaeca. maSin TiToeuli aqciis nominaluri Rirebuleba erT lars Seadgenda. 2004-2005 wlebidan moyolebuli, WiaTuris manganumze msoflio bazarze moTxovna TandaTan izrdeboda, Sesabamisad, aqciaTa fasmac mkveTrad moimata. specialistebis daskvnebiT, `WiaTurmanganumis~ xelovnuri gakotreba rom ara, aqciaTa 3 procentis sabazro Rirebuleba dRes milionobiT dolari iqneboda. ase rom, rodesac `WiaTurmanganumis~ qonebaze gakotrebis saqmis warmoeba gaixsna, amiT movalis ekonomikuri siZneleebis daZleva ki ar iyo ganzraxuli, aramed, Turme, imTaviTve sawarmos likvidacia igegmeboda. 12 aTasze meti aqcioneris vinaoba (saxelebi, gvarebi, validebuli adamianebi, regresis pensionerebi (bevri maTgani invalidis etls dRemdea mijaWvuli), romlebic mizeruli saxelmwifo pensiis imedad darCnen. mkiTxvels Sevaxseneb, rom mimdinare wlis aprilSi batoni biZina ivaniSvili regresis pensionerebs Sexvda da daxmareba aRuTqva. koaliciis programis es nawili praqtikulad gadawyvetilia. `mosrolilma~ aqcionerebma ician, rom aravis araferi gaukeTebia imisaTvis, rom gakotrebis saqmis warmoeba likvidaciiT ki ara, reabilitaciiT damTavrebuliyo. maTTvis isic kargad aris cnobili, rom ekonomikis saministros zewolis gamo, sasamarTloSi valauvali movalis mi- sacxovrebeli adgilis misamarTebi da sxva) dResac aris dafiqsirebuli fasiani qaRaldebis registratoris monacemebsa da Sesabamis sxva dokumentaciaSi. _ da uflebaSelaxuli, qonebawarTmeuli aqcionerebisaTvis cnobili araferia? _ maT yvelaferi Cinebulad ician, maT Soris _ ekonomikis saministros erT-erTi maRalCinosnis cinikuri xumrobis Sesaxeb: `WiaTurmanganumis~ gakotrebasTan dakavSirebiT erT-erT TaTbirze mas uTqvams: 12 aTas aqcioners maTsave samuSao iaraRebs gavaqonineb, maTze davsvam da ise movisvrio... amJamad bevri aqcioneri jer kidev manganumis mrewvelobaSi muSaobs (rogorc ukve aRvniSne, am bizness Sps `jorjian manganezi~ agrZelebs) da samuSaos dakargvis SiSiT pirSi wylis Cagubebas amjobinebs. rac Seexeba maRalCinosnis danaqadebs, man sityva Seasrula, marTlac `moisrola~ 12 aTasze meti aqcioneri, romelTac xelT faratina qaRaldebiRa SerCaT. im 12 aTas `mosrolil~ aqcioneTa Soris iyvnen sawarmoo marcxiT dain- er, arc erTi kerZo saCivari, arc erTi morigebis gancxadeba ar Sesula. vidre momdevno kiTxvaze gadavidodeT, mciredi gadaxveva; prezidenti saakaSvili satelevizio gamosvlebisas xSirad imeorebs _ CvenTan ar moipoveba navTobi da bunebrivi airi, amitom Cveni qveyana ekonomikurad Zlieri ar ariso. erTi suli maqvs am dros sityva Sevawyvetino da Sevaxseno: batono prezidento, samagierod Cven gvaqvs unikaluri fizikuri da qimiuri TvisebebiT gamorCeuli WiaTuris manganumi, romlis warmoebis Sedegad miRebuli milionobiT dolaris mogeba, sadRac Sors, kviprosis ofSoruli zonis bankebSi, iqve daregistrirebuli kompaniis angariSze iricxeba, romlis damfuZnebelTa vinaoba gasaidumloebulia. ase rom, Cveni qveynisa da xalxis ekonomikuri uZlurebis mizezi bunebrivi resursebis nakleboba ki ara, elituri korufciaa. _ rogorRa gagrZelda `WiaTurmanganumis~ gakotrebis saqmis warmoeba? _ gakotrebis warmoebis procesSi (2005-2008 wlebi), lamis yoveldRiurad izrdeboda moTxovna WiaTuris manganumze da matulobda sasaqonlo produqciis realizaciac. amas statistikis erovnuli samsaxuris monacemebic adasturebs. arsebobda iuridiuli da realuri faqtobrivi safuZvlebi imisa, rom momxdariyo `WiaTurmanganumis~ reabilitacia. es procesi sabolood daasrula 2008 wlis 4 ivliss saCxeris raionulma sasamarTlom (mosamarTle _ malxaz CubiniZe, sxdomis mdivani _ nino CixeliZe): `WiaTurmanganumis~ mimarT gakotrebis saqmis warmoeba dasrulebulad cno; sawarmo gakotrebulad gamoacxades da samewarmeo reestridan amoiRes. ai, finali aSkara ukanono epopeisa! kidev erTxel vimeoreb: aqcionerebs, vinc TavianTi janmrTeloba da axalgazrdoba `WiaTurmanganumis~ warmatebul sawarmod Camoyalibebas Seswira, xelT faratina qaRaldi SerCaT. sawarmoo simZlavreebi: gamamdidrebeli fabrikebi, maRaroebi, avtosatransporto parki, unikaluri wiaRiT mdidari sabadoebi lamis saCuqrad gadaeca Sps `jorjian manganezs~, romlis damfuZnebeli kviprosis ofSorul zonaSi daregistrirebuli kompaniaa. _ batono malxaz, Cveni interviu pesimistur notze mTavrdeba? _ ras brZanebT, arasodes vyofilvar pesimisti! vici, TviTon qalaq WiaTuraSi, mis rionebSi, soflebSi uamravi problemaa mosagvarebeli. qalaqi TiTqos sasmeli wylis resursebis naklebobas ar ganicdis, magram sruliad mouwesrigebelia wyalmomaragebis sistema, romelzec ukve sam milionamde laria daxarjuli. Tuki deputatad amirCeven, `Savi oqros~ qalaqSi prioritetuli iqneba garemos dacvis sakiTxebi, miwisZvriTa da miwisqveSa samTo samuSaoebis warmoebisas dazaralebulTa uflebebis dacva, soflis meurneobis ganviTareba... me mzad var, am problemebis mosagvareblad, WiaTurelTa interesebis dasacavad... neba momeciT, es interviu biZina ivaniSvilis gamonaTqvamiT davasrulo: `Cven davamTavrebT saqarTveloSi sabWoeTis epoqas, tyuilebis epoqas! elitaruli korufciis epoqas! usamarTlobisa da unamusobis epoqas! saqarTveloSi patiosnebis dro modis!~ Tamaz TofuriZe 9 10 saerTo gazeTi luis navarosTan mimarTebaSi mxolod erTaderTi gamosavali arsebobs- samarcxvinod gavaZevoT saqarTvelodan. gavaZevoT ise, rom momavalSi verc erTma moxalise navarom veRar SeZlos qarTveli xalxisTvis Tavze dafurTxeba. vfiqrob, rom saprotesto kampaniis mTavar RerZad unda iqces aqciebis organizeba NDI-is da sxva ofisebis win. axla, ra Tqma unda, gamoxteba zogierTi opozicioneri politikosi, Tu politikosobis msurveli da ityvis, rom es procesisTvis xelis SeSlaa...:))) daiwyeT aqciebis organizeba im gayalbebisa da tyuilis winaaRmdeg, rasac navaroebi gvaxeven Tavs. es kriminalia. aqciebis organizeba ki araa danaSauli _ Cveni mTavari uflebaa. Zvelad qarTvelebi Zalian dafasebulebi vyofilvarT! lekebi mogvitacebdnen Tu ara maSinve stambolis bazarze gavyavdiT, sadac taciaoba tydeboda Cvenze, ara me unda viyido, ara - meo! axla mazanda dagvivarda, SeiZleba ki SemovetacoT vinmes, mara muStari aRar gvyavs, amitom gvaWmeven, gvacmeven, jibis fuls gvaZleven da ukan gvabruneben. am pirobebSi iavnanam ra unda qnas?! yriloba iyo formiT viTom amerikuli (rogorc albaT, SeukveTa miSam Tavis piarSCikebs) da SinaarsiT – sufTa komunistur–bolSevikuri. teqstebidan gamomdinare Tu vimsjelebT, marTla cudad aqvT etyoba, saqme, Cveulebrivze meti tyuili da ciliswameba dasWirdaT! Tan nametani xmaCaxleCilebi Rrialebdnen. xalxis azriT ara marto ”leninizm-neobolSevizmis” - sruli marazmis karnavalia ” heil hitler-is winamZRolobiT!!! Tavi evropaSi visac hgonia, ZaliT Cacmul 5-ian maisurebSi gamowyobaze, demonstraciebze ZaliT monawileobis miRebaze sabWoTa kavSiri cotaTi mainc ar elandebaT?ramdeni ”modelirebuli qronika” unda vnaxoT, ramdeni lopotas xeobis operacia, ramdeni SaraZe, Jvania, girgvliani, vazagaSvili, gamcemliZe, qimeriZe, soso wiklauri, Coxeli, xvedeliZe da sxva, ramdeni daRupul-daWrili avRaneTSi, ramdeni atirebuli deda, mama, meuRle, Svili, Seyvarebuli, ramdeni nacemi da Seuracxyofili veterani, saxlebidan gamoyrili Zveli Tu axali ltolvil-devnili, garedan gamWvirvale da Signidan bneli, burusiT moculi policiis Senoba, ramdeni vandaluri Zeglis gadatan-gadmotana an sulac afeTqeba-ganadgureba,ramdeni unda vnaxoT da vigemoT, rom gamovfxizldeT?! Tavs nu davimSvidebT, rom ”droni mefoben da ara mefeni”!!! iqneb senekas davujeroT: ”gavzomoT cxovreba qmedebebiT da ara droiT”. #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. `makkeiniT var maked~ `Tu ginda siTbo da alersi, megobars Caxede TvalebSi~ _ makkeini saakaSvilTan Camovida, rogorc megobari megobarTan, rom arCevnebis win gaefrTxilebina, raime sisulele ar Caidino, biWo da ar dagvRupoo _ aseT axsnas uZebnis qarTel politikosTa erTi nawili makkeinis vizits saqarTveloSi. _ msoflioSi Zalian cota darCa adamiani, visac saakaSvili ujerebs... is imdenadaa Sepyrobili Zalauflebis SenarCunebis surviliT, rom cota vinmes Tu usmens, xolo visac usmens, maTgan makeini, ra Tqma unda, gamorCeuli pirovnebaa saakaSvilisTvis. makkeini, albaT, Seecada daerwmunebina saakaSvili, rom sjobs arCevnebi samarTlianad Catardes _ amboben qarTveli eqspertebi da politologebi. mokled rom vTqvaT, didi marCieloba da mkiTxaobaa gaCaRebuli _ ratom Camovida makkeini da ra uTxra saakaSvils? saakaSvilis dasatuqsad Camovida Tu saakaSvilis mxardasaWerad? iqneb imis gasagebad, es ivaniSvili ruseTis kacia Tu ara? am makeinis gamkvirvebia, ivaniSvilis ruseTumeobis ambavi rom ainteresebs, ratom is ar ainteresebs vin aris sinamdvileSi misi politikuri Svilobili mixeil saakaSvili da iseTi ra megobrul-naTesauri kavSirebi aqvs ruseTTan, naxevari saqarTvelo Tavis teritoriebian-ekonomikianad ruseTs rom gadaabrala? marto am makkeinis ki ara saerTod amerikelebis miamitobiT da gulubryvilobiT var gaocebuli, maTTvis rogor darCa damaluli da gaugebari is, rac saqarTveloSi TiTqmis yvelam icis _ dawyebuli Jurnalistebidan da damTavrebuli rigiTi moqalaqeebiT. makkeins moaxsenes, rom biZina ivaniSvilma Tavisi ukanaskneli biznesic gayida ruseTSi, magram ratomRac araferi mouxsenebiaT imis Sesaxeb, rom TviT xelisufleba da masTan daaxloebuli pirebi kidev ufro aRrmaveben da aZliereben ruseTTan biznesurTierTobebs. ratom araferi uTxres makkeins da mis Tanmxleb senatorebs, rom saakaSvili da putini krizisul situaciebSi ise filigranulad azRveven erTmaneTs, ise sinqronulad moqmedeben, rom didi mixvedra ar unda, rasTan gvaqvs saqme. yvelafers rom Tavi davaneboT, roca saakaSvilis gundSi moiazrebian benduqiZeebi, vaSaZeebi, nayofiebi, Sarangiebi, sxvebi da sxvebi, ivaniSvilis prorusulobaze saubari sasacilo ar aris? makkeins, romelic oTxi weli hyavdaT rusebs tyved, paTologiurad sZuls ruseTi da etyoba, SurisZiebis grZnoba ar asvenebs, miuxedavad imisa, rom misi tyveobidan bevrma wyalma Caiara da amerika-vietnamis omic ukve bevrs ar axsovs. samagierod, yvelaferi axsovs mister jons da, rogorc vTqviT, ruseb- ze SurisZiebis dauokebeli survili moxucebulobaSic gadmohyva. _ rusebma gawyenines? ager ar var me? Tqven oRond iaraRi mogveciT da rusebs TavianT daJangul tankebs da TavianT frTamoRrecil TviTmfrinavebs sul jarTad vuqcevT! _ gamovarda uceb xmalamoRebuli jeeli, tanad brge, xmiT xafi, alag-alag mrisxane, gvarad saakaSvili da erTbaSad moxibla ukve asakSi Sesuli makkeini. _ ai, vin amixdens ocnebas, ai, vin iZiebs Surs Cems magivrad, ai, vin mWirdeba me, _ ifiqra makkeinma da erTi rom Caavlo xeli am axlad movlenil gmirs, dRemde ar gauSva. amasac, am `gmir~ jeelsac ra enaRvleba _ xan dedas aginebs ruseTs, xan mamas, xan orives erTad, erTi-orjer yumbarebic lewa, riTac, albaT, makkeinis guli gaaxara, Tumca amiT makkeinis gulTan erTad rusebis gulic gaaxara, romlebmac sapasuxod iseTi dagvcxes, dRemde ver movsulvarT gons. moxerxebuli kacia es Cveni saakaSvili _ iqiT makkeins da amerikelebs uxarebs guls, aqeT putins da ruseTs, erTaderTi, visac guls uklavs, es qarTvelebia, Tumca qarTvelebi saTvalavSi Casagdebic ar arian, mTavaria, makkeins da rusebs asiamovnos. _ yvelafers gavakeTeb imisTvis, rom saqarTvelom Sepirebuli SeiaraReba droulad miiRoso _ daubara `babua~ jonma Tavis saamayo `SviliSvils~ da wavida. marTalia, is ar uTqvams, SeiaraRebas ki mogcemT, magram mere Sen ici, rogor Seneburad miulewav Tav-ybas am Tavxed rusebso, magram amas Tqma rad undoda _ es xom isedac igulisxmeboda. rogorc Cans, makkeins mtkiced sjera, rom 1 oqtombris arCevnebSi isev saakaSvili da misi `nac.moZraoba~ gaimarjvebs da swored imitom Tqva, iaraRs mogcemTo, Torem makkeini ivaniSvilis SesaiaraReblad rom ar moiklavda Tavs, cxadia. axla mTavaria, `nacmoZraobis`Rirseuli~ gamarjvebis Semdeg viRacviRacebma quCaSi gamosvla da xmis amoReba ar gabedon da `gamarjvebuls~ `gamarjveba~ yovelgvari protestis gareSe miulocon. ase iSifreba makkeinis narTaulebi da ara ise, rogorc `qarTuli ocnebis~ zogierTi eqsperti Sifravs. ra davaSaveT aseTi, maincdamainc makkeins unda SevewiroT? dabolos, aqve gTavazobT mkiTxvelis mier gamogzavnil leqss saTauriT `makkeini varT maked~. mxatvruli Rirebulebebis TvalsazrisiT, leqsi didi veraferi bedenaa, magram SinaarsiT saintereso unda iyos: makkeiniT varT maked kvlav aRmarTs vebRauWebiT, verafriT gavivakeT, iqiT mziani daria, Tovs da wvimaa aqeT. isev TalxSia Camjdari, Cemi vera da vake, makkeiniT varT fexmZimed, makkeiniT varT maked. zeimobs saakaSvili, putini _ aranakleb! dabeCavebul qveyanas Tavze ayrian nakels, win aramzada miuZRvis, aramzadebis nakrebs makkeiniT varT fexmZimed, makkeiniT varT maked. avRaneTs mivalT saomrad, da rasmuseni gvaqebs. oqtombris Semdeg nacebi, dagvirigeben kakebs. kvlav gadavavsebT isedac pirTamde savse saknebs. makkeiniT varT fexmZimed, makkeiniT varT maked. P.S. am amerikelebs ucnauri zne dasCemdaT bolo xanebSi _ saqarTvelos sazRvrebs gascdebian Tu ara, ratomRac saakaSvilis siyvarulis buSti gauskdebaT imwamsve da sazRvrebs garedan sul paCi-puCebs gvigzavnian. ase moiqca qalbatoni hilari da ase moiqca batoni makkeinic, romelmac saqarTvelodan cota Sors daigula Tavi Tu ara, egreve mTel msoflios acnoba: _ me vamayob, rom saakaSvili Cemi megobariao. ex, qalbatono TinaTin xidaSelo, ra tyuilad gvaimedebdiT, makkeini Tavisi megobris megobrulad datuqsvis mizniT Camovidao. datuqsva ki ara, ver xedavT kacs eamayeba, rom saakaSvilis megobaria... giorgi gamezardaSvili ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~ internetSi www.saertogazeti.com SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-z ze saerTo gazeTi 11 #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. gvesaubreba konfliqtebisa da molaparakebebis saerTaSoriso kvleviTi centris direqtori, profesori gogi xuciSvili: _ batono gogi, NDI-mm kvleva Caatara, ris Sedegadac biZina ivaniSvils mxars 12 procenti uWers. _ NDI avtoritetiani saerTaSoriso organizaciaa, magram meore mxriv, igi kvlevebs sakuTari ZalebiT ar atarebs _ mas adgilobriv profesiul jgufTan xelSekruleba aqvs gaformebuli. Sesabamisad, pasuxismgebloba rasac NDI-s vakisrebT, qarTul profesiul jgufze unda gadavamisamarToT. jgufi, romelTanac luis navaro muSaobs, ar SeiZleba miukerZoeblad, obieqturad CaiTvalos. kargi iqneboda NDI-s drodadro sxvadasxva jgufebTan gaeformebina xelSekruleba, magram am arCevnebisTvis es rCeva ukve dagvianebulia. _ rogor fiqrobT, vis dauWers am arCevnebSi amerika mxars _ mixeil saakaSvils Tu xalxs? maTi mxardaWera xom yovelTvis prezidents ekuTvnoda. _ axla, ase ar iqneba, Tumca xelisuflebas xels uwyobs is garemoeba, rom amerikas aRar surs ise gamoCndes, TiTqos zewolas axdens erTi romelime politikuri Zalis sawinaaRmdegod an sasargeblod. amitomacaa aSS sakuTar qmedebebsa da SefasebebSi TavSekavebuli, magram Sefasebebi, rac amerikeli politologebis, mecnierebis mier keTdeba, vaSingtonis mxridan mxardaWerilia. amas didi mniSvneloba aqvs. Sefasebebi, romelic araoficialuri xaziT keTdeba, Zalian kritikulia. amitom, SeiZleba iTqvas, rom aSS-s damokidebuleba Secvlilia, rac gamowveulia SemdegiT _ yvela civilizebuli qveynis praqtikiTa da kanoniT, gundi, romelmac xelisuflebaSi ori vada amowura, unda wavides da adgili sxva gunds dauTmos. mTavari esaa. unda moxdes xelisuflebis tranzicia, magram es procesi CvenTan gaZnelebulia, radgan jgufi, romelic xelisuflebaSia imdenadaa CabRauWebuli skamebs, rom praqtikulad aravis aZlevs SesaZleblobas Zalaufleba gauyos. _ saakaSvilma aRniSna kidec, aRmaSenebelma 20 weli moandoma qveynis gaerTianebaso. es, praqtikulad miniSneba iyo, rom igi arsad wasvlas ar apirebs. _ axla XXI saukunea, saakaSvili ki XII-XIII saukunis ambebs gvTavazobs saprogramo miznad. man xom Tqva _ Cemi aSenebuli qveyana sxvas rogor unda gadavceo. mas unda Tanamedrove modernizebuli iarliyiT feodaluri tipis urCxuli daabrunos qveynis mmarTvelobaSi. _ rac Seexeba senatorebis vizits, rogor SeafasebT maT gancxadebebs? _ saerTod, Zalian kritikulad, skeptikurad vuyureb imas, rom winasaarCevno periodSi saqarTveloSi swored is senatorebi Camodian, romlebic saakaSvils uWeren mxars. es, winasaarCevnod politkur zewolas hgavs. es xelisuflebis erT-erTi dagegmili nabiji iyo, raTa saarCevnod TavianTi politikuri poziciebi gaeZlierebinaT. makkeini da kidev ramdenime senatori `respublikuri partiis~ im konservatiul jgufs warmoadgenen, romlebic buSis periodSi radikalur poziciaze iyvnen, ramac saqarTvelos ara de- mokratiuli, aramed avtoritaruli gziT svlas Seuwyo xeli. _ am fonze, ramdenad unda gvqondes demokratiuli arCevnebis Catarebis molodini? _ molodini mainc unda gvqondes. imitom, rom gayalbeba garkveul farglebSi xdeba. ar arsebobs absoluturi, sruli gayalbeba. yvelaferi amomrCevlis aqtivobaze, mis Camoyalibebulobazea damokidebuli. Tu xalxi 1 oqtombers im arCevans gaakeTebs, rasac axla misi ganwyobebi gamoxatavs, maSin mmarTvelma partiam ver unda SeZlos imdeni xmis dagroveba, rom absolutur dominantur poziciaSi darCes. magram Tu aRmoCnda, rom Cveni amomrCeveli winaaRmdegobrivi, Camouyalibebeli, sustia gadawyvetilebis miRebaSi da `imedis~, `rusTavi-2~is gavlenis qveS eqceva, maSin samomavlod am qveynis saqme cudad yofila. realuri arCevanis dafiqsireba mosaxleobas masobrivad gauWirda, ukve qveynis momavalze didi kiTxvis niSani daismeba. safrTxe imisa, rom mosaxleobas am arCevanis gakeTeba gauWirdeba, arsebobs. magram mainc imeds vitoveb, rom 1 oqtombers arCevnebze xalxi Camoyalibebuli poziciiT mova. _ opoziciuri partiebis didi nawili xmamaRla acxadebs, rom arCevnebi ukve gayalbebulia. zogi Tvlis, rom am SemTxvevaSi gamosavali meore dRes quCaSi gamosvla da msoflios mier Cveni daTvlaa. ras fiqrobT, amaze? _ ra Tqma unda, sjobs arCevnebamde dagvTvalon. arcerTi saerTaSoriso organizacia da damkvirvebelTa jgufi sakuTar Tavze ar aiRebs imas, rom qveynis mTavrobis mier Seqmnil suraTs mkveTrad daupirispirdes, gaabaTilos da bolomde gaiyvanos Tavisi azri, es ar moxdeba. maT ician, rom TavianT simarTles ver _ opoziciis nawili arCevnebis gayalbebis SemTxvevaSi mosalodnel revoluciaze saubrobs, rogoria Tqveni prognozi am sakiTxTan mimarTebaSi? _ aramgonia revolucia moxdes. aravin dauSvebs xelisuflebis legitimacia ukve meored revoluciis gziT moxdes. mTeli datvirTva ukve amomrCevelze gadadis, anu ramdenadaa igi cvlilebisTvis masiurad mzad. ara konkretulad romelime kandidatis mxardasaWerad, aramed cvlilebisTvis. erTpartiuli parlamenti unda dasruldes, mTeli datvirTva swored amaze midis _ Tu ramdenadaa mzad amomrCeveli amisTvis. unda SemuSavdes meqanizmebi, romelic TviTon arCevnebis dRis gakontrolebis saSualebas mogvcems. oRond, ara egzitpolebi. es mosaxleobaze Zalian did fsiqologiur gavlenas axdens. Zalian maSfoTebs erTi ram _ wina arCevnebis win samoqa- gogi xuciSvili: saakaSvils surs Tanamedrove modernizebuli iarliyiT qveynis mmarTvelobaSi feodaluri tipis urCxuli daabrunos _ rogor fiqrobT, dRevandeli amomrCeveli sustia gadawyvetilebis miRebaSi? _ diax, sustia da swored es maRelvebs. es imas niSnavs, rom am arCevnebis Semdeg Cveni demokratiuli ganviTarebis perspeqtivebi da Zler saxelmwifod Camoyalibebis survili, didi kiTxvis niSnis qveS dgas. mosaxleobis umravlesobam xeli unda Seuwyos arsebuli viTarebis Secvlas da parlamenti im Zalebisgan dakompleqtdes, ra moTxovnac sazogadoebaSia. amJamad, Cven xelovnuri parlamenti gvaqvs, es unda damTavrdes. amomrCevelTan Sexvedrebs vmarTavT, isini xSirad aRniSnaven _ gvinda, azri ufro aqtiurad gamovxatoT, magram gveSinia da Tavs vikavebTo. ki, batono, axla SeikaveT Tavi, magram ar SeikavoT Tavi 1 oqtombers, sadac aravin giyurebT da Tavisuflad SegiZliaT azris dafiqsireba. mTavari esaa, magram Tu sakuTari, gaitanen. amitom, maT SeuZliaT darRvevebis aRmoCena, saerTo viTarebaze azris gamoTqma, magram miRebuli Sedegis gauqmebas, Secvlas vercerTi saerTaSoriso organizacia sakuTar Tavze ver aiRebs. _ anu ra gamodis, maTgan Zveleburad aRSfoTeba-S SeSfoTebas miviRebT? _ ase gamodis. amitom, sjobs reagireba axlave moxdes. Tundac, Tu vTvliT, rom damkvirveblebi sakmarisi ar arian, axlave moviTxovoT damateba. opozicia, samoqalaqo seqtori axla unda gaaqtiurdes da ara arCevnebis mere. es arCevnebi saqarTvelos momavlisTvis gadamwyvetia. Tu am arCevnebis Sedegad gairkva, rom saqarTvelos mosaxleoba eTanxmeba dRes arsebuli fiqtiuri parlamentis kidev 4 weli imave saxiT arsebobs, es ukve sazogadoebis uunarobaze imetyvelebs, rasac Zalian mZime Sedegebi mohyveba. laqo seqtorsa da saerTaSoriso damkvirveblebs Soris sakmaod mWidro urTierToba da komunikacia iyo, axla gacilebiT naklebia. ratom unda xdebodes es? es arCevnebi xom sasicocxlod ufro metad mniSvnelovania, vidre wina.am arCevnebis mimarT ufro meti yuradRebaa, amave dros damkvirvebelTa misia ufro naklebad Semodis kontaqtSi, vidre adre iyo. _ ras ukavSirebT am yovelives, riT SeiZleba iyos es gamowveuli? _ SemiZlia vTqva, rom quCaSi viRac adamiani daSinebulia, magram rogor SeiZleba euTos damkvirvebeli daaSino?! aba, ra aris mizezi? _ moumzadebloba im viTarebisadmi, romelSic samuSaod Cadixar, Tu ra xdeba?! es CemTvisac gaugebaria, es kiTxva upasuxodaa darCenili, magram arsebobs sxvadasxva manipulaciebi, raTa naklebi iyos kontaqti, _ saerTa- Soriso organizaciebs mxolod im organizaciebTan axvedreben, romelTaganac xelisufleba winaswar gaTvlil pasuxs elis. SesaZlebelia saerTaSoriso organizaciebs miuTiTeben kidec vis Sexvdnen da vis ara. anu sakmaod, arajansaRi saarCevno garemoa. _ prezidentma 11 regionSi farTomasStabiani aqciebi Caatara. es Zalis demonstrireba iyo, Tu... _ ra Tqma unda, es iyo Zalis demonstrirebis, aqtivobis, fsiqologiuri zemoqmedebis moxdena. arada, roca moqmedi xelisufleba xar, mTeli administraciuli resursi xelT gaqvs, gamgebels ar gauWirdeba skolis direqtorebs, maswavleblebs xalxis Sekreba daavalos, winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi maT samsaxuridan gauSveben. ase, ra Tqma unda, bevri xalxi mova. rogor SeiZleba es seriozulad aRviqvaT, rogorc mxardaWeris faqtori. es administraciuli resursis gamoyenebis faqtoria da ara mxardaWeris. _ ramdenad sworad migaCniaT opoziciis mxridan kriminalad monaTlul xelisuflebasTan erTad arCevnebSi monawileoba. burjanaZe ambobda: jer gadavayenoT es xelisufleba da mere davniSnoT arCevnebio. _ 7 noembersac egonaT, rom xalxis kritikuli masa SeZlebda xelisuflebis gadayenebas, magram ase ar moxda, imitom, rom raRac momentSi aSS-m sisuste gamoavlina, qarTveli xalxis mxridan ki iyo SemarTeba. burjanaZis pozicia kargad mesmis, magram politikuri TvalsazrisiT ver gavamarTleb, imitom, rom saakaSvils ase veravin gadaayenebs, amas mxolod Camoyalibebuli amomrCevlis gadawyvetilebiT mivaRwevT. Tu amomrCeveli am sakiTxze CamoyalTibebuli ar iqna, es ar niSnavs, rom xelebi unda CamovuSvaT da yvelaferi daRupulad miviCnioT. am momentisTvis, rogorc Cans, situacia Camoyalibebuli ar aris. xalxi nel-nela yalibdeba, Rvindeba, magram saqarTvelos, samwuxarod, meti dro sWirdeba am CamoyalibebisTvis, vidre sxva post-sabWoTa qveynebs. _ sasurveli Sedegis miuRwevlobis SemTxvevaSi, xom ar aris xelisuflebis mxridan garkveuli provokaciebis mowyobis safrTxe? _ Tu ruseTs vgulisxmobT, igi cdilobs saqarTvelos ambebSi ar Caerios. saqarTvelos arCevnebis gamo, rusuli jari aq ar Semova, magram ar aris gamoricxuli Tavad saakaSvilma moawyos raime provokacia. Tumca, aqve erTic unda aRiniSnos _ xelisuflebis mxridan provokaciis mowyobis saSiSroeba maSin iqneboda, Tu igi arCevnebSi wagebis perspeqtivis winaSe dadgeboda. am etapze, xelisuflebis wagebis perspeqtivas ver vxedav. mas uzarmazari resursi aqvs. rac Seexeba opozicias, igi namdvilad Sewuxebulia da asec unda iyos. am viTarebaSi, xelisuflebis xelSi, mosalodnelia maT xmebi daakldeT. xalxis molodinia opozicia parlamentSi Zlierad iyos warmodgenili. Tundac meore adgilze gasvla opoziciisTvis win gadadgmuli nabiji iqneba, magram ra Tqma unda, es ver Sefasdeba, rogorc maTi gamarjveba. es iqneba garkveuli winsvla, magram ara gamarjveba. isev realobidan unda gamovideT _ Tu ramdenadaa Cveni amomrCeveli Camoyalibebuli. rogorc giTxariT, am mxriv seriozuli problema gvaqvs. Tamar SveliZe 12 saerTo gazeTi winasaarCevno `maraToni~ Zalas ikrebs. `endiais~ kvle vis Sedegebma, faqtobrivad, yvelas Tavgza aubnia, sagonebelSi Caagdo `nacionalebi~, nuTu marTla mosaxleobis 30 procentia maTi momxre? anda vin aris mosaxleobis is 21 procenti, romelmac SekiTxva ze, Tu vis aZlevs xmas pasuxze uari ganacxada, an is 27 procenti adamianebisa, romel Tac pasuxis dakonkretebaze uari Tqves? maTi erToblioba saerTo jamSi, 48 procents Seadgens. es ki sakmaod didi procentia amomrCevlebisa, romelTa pasuxi 1 oqtombers re alurad dafiqsirdeba da yve lafers naTeli moefineba. ma namde ki vis darCeba gamarjveba, jer kidev gaurkvevelia. imedianad arian rogorc `nacionalebi~, ise koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~ warmomadgenlebi. realurad gamoikveTa erTi ram, kerZod is, rom `nacmoZraoba~ gamarjvebis miRwevisaTvis yvelaferze wamsvlelia, aqedan gamomdinare ki darRvevebi ukve daiwyes. ra tipis darRvevebi gamoikveTa amJamad? rogor ibrZvian gamarjvebisTvis? am SekiTxvebs Cven faqtebiT vupasuxebT. 1. vin arian saarCevno komisiebSi `nacionaluri moZraobis~ momxre 6 kaci, romelnic `saolqos~ warmomadgenlebad iTvlebian? _ eseni arian sxvadasxva saministroebSi da adgilobriv TviTmmarTvelobaSi momuSave specialistebi, romelnic saarCevno komisiebSi damoukidebel wevrebad moavlines. es xriki `nacionalebma~ winasaarCevnod moifiqres. am adamianTa zogierTi nawili winasaarCevnod ufaso SvebulebaSi gauSves, radgan TviTmmarTvelobaSi momuSave TanamSromlebs saarCevno kampaniaSi CarTva ekrZalebaT. amdenad, saarCevno komisiebSi mmarTveli partiis mier daniSnuli wevrebis garda `nacionalebis~ sasargeblod `damoukidebeli~ upartio wevrebic imuSaveben, maT raodenoba ki iqneba 7 kaci. amas kvlav emateba qristian demokratiuli moZraobis 1, amave partiis Svilobili partiis `qristian-demokratiuli saxalxo partiis~ _ 1, `evropeli demokratebis 1 #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. wevri, romelnic sruliad uWeren mxars `nacionalebs~ da es yovelive saarCevno ubnebze Catarebul pirvel sxdomaze naTlad gamoikveTa. isini sruli SeTanxmebiT, erToblivad moqmedeben. dRemde neitralur pozicias inarCuneben leibo- faqti _ 2 26 agvistos kaspSi daakaves klinika `aversis~ mTavari eqimi begi TaTriSvili _ generatoris qurdobis braldebiT. igi policiam samsaxurSi aiyvana _ begi TaTriSvili gorSi winaswari dakavebis izola- faqti _ 3 `xramhesis~ generalurma direqtorma devi kandelakma, koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~ 9 aqtivisti gaaTavisufla samsaxuridan. aqedan 7 wevri iyo `xramhesis 1~-is TanamSromeli, 2-ki `xramhesi-2~-is TanamSromeli, motivi samsaxuridan gaSvebisa aris martivi _ Statebis Semcireba! oRondac, es Semcireba, mxolod `qarTuli ocnebis~ mxardamWerebs exebaT zogadad, es yvelgan asea. sinamdvileSi es gaxlavT adamianebis politikuri niSniT devna. faqti _ 4 bolnisSi `qarTuli ocnebis~ maJoritarobis kandidati aris darejan Cxetiani, misi Zma da siZe muSaobdnen iq saxanZro-samaSvelo samsaxurSi, oriveni gauSves samsaxuridan. amave raionidan daiTxoves samsaxuridan bevri ocnebis `ocnebis~ momxreebi, maT Soris baga-baRis TanamSromeli _ nacionalebis winasaarCevno oinebi ristebi~, romelTac xelisufleba aras erCis da arc zRudavs im dros, roca `qarTuli ocnebis~ warmomadgenlebze arnaxuli zewola mimdinareobs. aqac faqtebs moviSveliebT. faqti _ 1 2012 wlis 5 seqtembers, 01.00 saaTze yvarlis raionSi, sof. SildaSi policiam daakava koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~ yvarlis r-nis zonis koordinatori levan xuciSvili da amave koaliciis wevri da aqtivisti _ zaza rostiaSvili mis kuTvnil sacxovrebel binaSi da gadaiyvana policiis winaswari dakavebis izolatorSi. maTi dakaveba moxda baCo nikoloziSvilis Cvenebis safuZvelze, romelic aris `nacionaluri moZraobis~ koordinatoris biZaSvilis meuRle da misi ganmartebiT levan xuciSvilma mas `nacionali~ uwoda. torSi gadaiyvanes, misi saxli gaCxrikes da iqidan 800 dolaris odenobiT Tanxa amoiRes. arsebobs safuZvliani eWvi imisa, rom kaspis raionis mTavari eqimi koalicia `qarTul ocnebasTan~ kavSiris gamo daakaves, radganac dakavebamde erTi dRiT adre, begi TaTriSvils xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebma im TanamSromelTa sia mosTxoves, romlebic saakaSvilis dasaxvedrad wavidodnen, razedac man uari ganacxada! misi Svili ki koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~ kaspis organizaciis wevria da maTi maJoritari kandidatis daviT onofriSvilis saarCevno SexvedrebSi monawileobs. koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~ warmomadgenlebi acxadeben, rom begi TaTriSvili avtoritetuli pirovnebaa da kaspSi is seriozul safrTxes warmoadgens `nacionaluri moZraobisaTvis~. lali moroSkina nacionalebis xelisuflebaSi darCenis SemTxvevaSi evropaSi politikur TavSesafars moiTxovs Jurnalist lali moroSkinas mtkicebiT, is saqarTvelos erovnul universitetSi profesoris Tanamdebobidan politikuri Sexedulebebis gamo gaaTavisufles. rogorc moroSkinam dRes mediapalitris ofisSi gamarTul preskonferenciaze ganacxada, man ramdenjerme, maT Soris Ria eTerSi, koalicia “qarTul ocnebas” mxardaWera gamoucxada. garda amisa, mmarTvel gundSi arc mis mier gamocemuli wignebi moswondaT. moroSkinas mtkicebiT, imis Sesaxeb, rom igi samsaxuridan gaTavisuflebuli iyo universitetis reqtorma gia kavTuaSvilma acnoba da SesTavaza, rom “ar exmaura da xelfass SeunarCunebdnen”. Jurnalistis TqmiT, es misTvis Seuracxmyofelia. misive gancxadebiT, im SemTxvevaSi Tu pirveli oqtombris arCevnebis Semdeg “nacmoZraoba” saparlamento umravlesobaSi aRmoCndeba, igi evropis romelime saxelmwifos politikur TavSesafars sTxovs. `medianiusi~ aleqsiSvili eka, pedagogi asaniZe, gazis sammarTvelos TanamSromeli zina kopaliani, `madneulis~ TanamSromeli _ CakvetaZe, sakrebulos TanamSromeli _ kapanaZe. faqti _ 5 axalqalaqis raionis ninowmindaSi `qarTul ocnebas~ ofisis moZiebaSi exmareboda iqauri mkvidri levon varTaniani, is arc koaliciis wevria da arc araferi. miuxedavad amisa, is dakavebuli iqna am faqti gamo da miyvanil iqna gamgeobis SenobaSi, sadac imJamad imyofeboda `nacionaluri moZraobis~ maJoritarobis kandidati miqoiani, aseve, policiis ufrosi am regionis da gamgebeli. am faqtis Sesaxeb operatiulad acnobes gogla Jvanias, `qarTuli ocnebis~ warmomadgenels am regionSi, romelic movida SemTxvevis adgilze, magram is iq ar SeuSves, manqaniT gza gadauketes. amis mere datyvevebuli varTaniani policiis manqanaSi Casves da somxeTis sazRvrisken waiyva- nes, romelsac manqaniTve, daedevna Stabis ufrosi gogla Jvania, magram mas manqaniT gza gadauketes da ar misces miaxloebis saSualeba. saqarTvelos moqalaqe levon varTaniani ki somxeTis sazRvarze gadaiyvanes da iq datoves. amJamad is veRar Semodis saqarTveloSi garkveuli mizezebis gamo. faqti _ #6 mniSvnelovani incidenti moxda axalqalaqis raionis saolqo-saarCevno komisiis sxdomaze, sadac nacionalebis warmomadgenelma qalbatonma, jer sityvieri Seuracxyofa miayena `qarTuli ocnebis~ warmomadgenlebs, Semdeg ki Cxubi atexa iseTi, rom moxda komisiis wevrebs Soris Sexla-Semoxla da fizikurad erTmaneTisaTvis angariSis gasworeba. samwuxaro is gaxlavT, rom am faqtis aRniSvnis dros ceskos Tavmjdomarem batonma xaratiSvilma `ocnebis~ xalxi daadanaSaula, Tumca, is ar aris mxare da amisi ufleba mas ar aqvs. am saqmis ganxilvisas, `nacionalurma~ isic aRniSnes, rom `ocnebis~ warmomadgenlebis mxridan adgili hqonda qsenofobias. faqtobrivad, es ase ar yofila, erovnebas aranairi mniSvneloba ar hqonda, radganac olqis Tavmjdomare iq gaxlavT `nacionali~ maramgoziani da is moiqca ise, rogorc am partias sCvevia, miuxedavad erovnebisa. am faqtebis gverdiT ar SeiZleba ar gavixsenoT `nacionaluri moZraobis~ axali meTodebi xalxis mosyidvisa. ker- Zod: 1. ratom waiyvanes maT agvistos TveSi dasasveneblad banakebSi borjomis raionSi Tavisive partiis koordinato rebis Svilebi? 2. ratom Caatara mosaxleobis aRwera gurjaanis raionis soflebSi amave raionis sapatrulo policiis ganyofilebam? ratom sTxovdnen isini mosaxleobas piradobis mowmobebs? 3. ratom ar dadges dRemde telefonebi saubno-ssaarCevno komisiebis ubnebze imisaTvis, rom xalxma darekos da moiTxovos saxlSi saarCevno yuTis mitana? vis aZlevs xels xalxis armosvla arCevnebze? mTavar kiTxvad ki rCeba is, rom aris Tu ara `cesko~ mxare da ara damoukidebeli su bieqti arCevnebis dros? _ amas, albaT, axlo momavali gviCvenebs. nino kasraZe saerTo gazeTi 13 #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. `oqros gombeSos~ mier miZRvnili oqros zodi patriarqi ilia II nacmoZraobis bolnisis maJoritarobis kandidatma nayofiam oqros zodiT daasaCuqra! am ramdenime dRis win sruliad saqarTvelos patriarqi ilia II bolniss estumra da uZvelesi marTlmadidebluri taZari bolnisis sioni mrevlTan da iq Casul samRvdelo Tu saero pirebTan erTad moiloca! am istoriaSi TiTqosda gasakviri araferia, magram namdvilad gamikvirda am mogzaurobis ramdenime epizodi da marTali giTxraT, aRvSfoTdi kidec! aRvSfoTdi imitom, rom sapatriarqos delegaciis oficialuri maspinZeli, `oqros gombeSod~ wodebuli, `nac.moZraobisa~ da ruseTis xelisuflebis mier saqarTveloSi movlenili, saakaSvilis biZis Temur alasanias Zmakaci `efesbeSniki~ generalovis moadgile, amJamad bolnisis r-nis maJoritari kandidati koba nayofia gaxldaT da ara is mrevli, romelic patriarqs fexdafex misdevda yvelgan, sadac ki is im dRes mibrZandeboda. televiziiT gadaica is kadrebic, roca xelSi Cvilatatebuli qalebi, moxuci adamianebi Tu xeibrebi didi mondomebiT iltvodnen patriarqTan Sesaxvedrad, moTminebiT elodnen mis miaxloebas, magram e.w. saxelmwifo `dacva~, Tu koba nayofias piradi `dacva~, maT patriarqamde xSir SemTxvevaSi, ar uSvebda, rac araTu miuRebeli, aramed amazrzeni sanaxavic ki iyo. da mainc, ratom maincdamainc koba nayofia SearCia samaspinZlod adgilobrivma Tu regionulma xelisuflebam sapatriarqos samdivnosTan erTad? albaT, imitom, rom `nacionaluri xelisufleba~ ukeT umaspinZlebda da izrunebda yoveliveze, maT Soris stumarTa usafrTxoebaze, magram am winasaarCevnod Tavad sapatriarqom ratom ganacxada Tanxmoba, `generalur maspinZlad~ maJoritarobis kandidati, Tanac milioneri nayofia hyolodaT da ara, vTqvaT, bolnisis eparqia? ufro metic, gana am damSeul qveyanaSi sircxvili ar aris, umaRlesma samRvdelo pirma _ yaCaRobiT gamdidrebuli adamianebisgan oqros zodi miiRos saCuqrad da isic warweriT: `saqarTvelos patriarqi ilia II~. diax, specialurad patriarqisTvis Camosxmuli 1 kg. oqros zodi gadasca avazakma `nacionalma~ koba nayofiam ilia II-s. gulaxdilad vambob, gamikvirda, Zalian gamikvirda es faqti da amavdroulad, gavb- razdi kidec. imitom, rom jer erTi _ gaaCnia vin gTavazovs saCuqars da meorec, imasac gaaCnia, am gatyavebul qveyanaSi, ra saxis saCuqars mogarTmeven keTilganwyobis sanacvlod!!! Tu mexsiereba ar mRalatobs, wminda sinodma winasaarCevnod `specialuri kanonic~ ki miiRo imis Sesaxeb, rom samRvdelo pirebs kategoriulad ekrZalebaT saarCevno propaganda, romelime politikuri gvamis mimarT, agreTve ekrZalebaT simpatiebis gamoxatva da axla, roca 3 kviraSi arCevnebi iqneba, sinodis, sapatriarqos da TviT ilia II CabrZaneba bolnisSi, maTi keTilganwyoba nayofias mimarT rogor unda SevafasoT _ ubralo SemTxveviTobad Tu specialur vizitad, romelic miznad `nac.moZraobis~ kandidatis mxardaWeras gulisxmobda?! suliT xorcamde SemZra sul axlaxan waRveridan TxuTmetiode kilometrSi, sofel maqarwyalSi, sakuTari xeliT aSenebul keliaSi gamomwvari usaTnoesi beri merkviris Semzaravma sikvdilma da misma werilma, romlis adresatic saqarTvelos kaTolikos-patriarqi ilia II-a. rogorc ukve iTqva, beri merkviri sakuTar keliaSi gamomwvari ipoves... pasuxgaucemeli darCa misi kiTxvebic, arada, es kiTxvebi ara mxolod bers, erSic mravladaa da gvipasuxeT, patriarqo, ratom iRebT ZRvens eklesiebis damangrevelebisgan, xatebis fexebiT gamTelavebisagan, qarTvelTa damaqcevrebisagan da marTlmadideblobasTan mebrZoli nac-satanistebisgan? aki, ufali Cveni ieso qriste mogiwodebT: nuca oqrosa da nuca vercxls nu daxarbdebiTo?! ra mogitanaT bolnisSi koba nayofias naCuqarma oqros zodma _ nuTu mrevlis ufro meti siyvaruli? Tqveno uwmindesobav, mSieri qveynis patriarqi brZandebiT, upatronod migdebuli invalidi bavSvebis da uTavSesafro moxucebis patriarqi brZandebiT, daavadebuli da usasood darCenili qarTveli marTlmadideblebis patriarqi brZandebiT da imedi maqvs, am oqros zods auqcionze gaatanienbT da iqidan Semosuli Tanxebi gaWirvebuelbs da upovrebs moxmardeba. pativiscemiT, marTlmadidebeli qristiani irine gogosaSvili Cveni gazeTi erT-erTi pirveli iyo, romlis furclebidanac sazogadoebam dadasturebulad Seityo, rom lopotas xeobaSi CeCen mebrZolTa jgufi gamiznulad, mZinare mdgomareobaSi Caxoces. eWvebi amis Sesaxeb, Ss saministros mier gavrcelebuli kadrebis gamoCenisTanave gaCnda, radgan daxocili meomrebis umetesoba saZile tomrebSi iwvnen. Tumca, danadvilebiT amaze saubris ufleba mxolod mas Semdge miveci Tavs, rac ambis TviTmxilvels vesaubre. ukve ori kvira gadis lopotas sisxliani specoperaciidan, da sazogadoebis kiTxvebze pasuxi jerac ar aris ga- mihqonda. rac imis maniSnebelia, rom es adamianebi Zalian seriozul saqmeze midiodnen da apirebdnen, rom garkveuli periodis ganmavlobaSi samyaros mowyvetilebi yofiliyvnen, daaxloebiT erTi kviris an aTi dRis ganmavlobaSi. razmis kvalifikaciis, momzadebis da aRWurvis done imdenad maRali iyo, rom xazgasmiT vambob, es razmi 11 kacs konkretul brZolaSi ar dakargavda. gardacvlilTa nawili moulodnelad iyo Caxocili. am adamianebisaTvis rom Setakeba moulodenli iyo, amas mowmobs isic, rom maTi nawili saZile tomrebSi iyo da garda amisa isic, rom zogierT gvams Zalian bevri tyvia aqvs moxvedrili. brZolaSi iSviaTia, rom adamians bevri tyvia moxvdes, Tu iq ar aris moulodnelobis efeqti, an Tu igi uiaraRo ar aris. _ rogor moxda, rom msgavsi kvalifikaciis razmis yvela wevrsMA erTdroulad daiZina? _ isini, savaraudod, awarmoebdnen molaparakebas xelisuflebis romelime warmomadgenelTan. molaparakebaSi mona- nier dRes ruseTis xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi amas xelze daixveven da Cvens winaaRmdge gamoiyeneben. Tumca, isic saTqmelia, rom xelisuflebis monawileobis gareSe es razmi saqarTvelos teritoriaze ver moxvdeboda. sakiTxavi mxolod isaa, xelisuflebis romeli rgoli iyo am saqmeSi gareuli. _ SesaZleblad migaCniaT, rom es ambavi prezidents ar scodnoda? _ dazustebiT ver vityvi, magram egec SesaZlebelia. msoflioSi yofila msgavsi precedentebi. magaliTad, amerikis SeerTebuli Statebis prezidenti ramdenjerme ar iyo mniSvnelovani specoperaciis saqmis kursSi, igive SeiZleba iTqvas israelis prezidentzec. eWvs imis Sesaxeb, rom specoperacia, xelisuflebis romelime rgolis da ara mTlianad xelisuflebis sindiszea, isic iwvevs, rom specoperacia spontanurobis elementebs Seicavda. Cvens mTavrobas uyvars “sufTad” muSaoba. am specoperaciam ki imdeni kiTxvebi datova sazogadoebaSi da imden Seusabamobas Se- lopotas xeobaSi momxdari istoriis axali detalebi cemuli: ratom da visi davalebiT gadmokveTes sazRvari CeCenma mebrZolebma; rogor moaxerxes am raodenobis sabrZolo teqnikiT sazRvris gadmokveTa SeumCnevlad; sad midiodnen; ratom aris amdeni Seusabamoba mZevalTa monaTxrobSi?! mamuka areSiZe – eqsperti kavkasiis sakiTxebSi: specoperaciis kadrebidan jer-jerobiT kidev uamravi pasuxgaucemeli kiTxva arsebobs. magram danamdvilebiT SeiZleba iTqvas, rom es razmi midioda samxreTidan CrTiloeTisaken da ara piriqiT. maT rom siriaSi gadasvla sdomodaT, isini aeroportSi mividodnen kostiumebiT da xelsac aravin SeuSlidaT gamgzavrebaSi. aseve zustad SeiZleba iTqvas rom razmi kvalificiuri mebrZolebiT iyo dakompleqtebuli. maT kvalifikacias amtkicebs SeiaraRebac. razmi maRali donis iaraRiT iyo aRWurvili, romliTac elitaruli spec-razmebia SeiaraRebuli. mniSvnelovania am iaraRebis fasic. rusuli warmoebis iaraRebisa da SaSxanebis garda, Ss mier gavrcelebul videomasalaSi Cans avstriuli SaSxanac, romlis fasi daaxloebiT, 3 000 aSS dolaria. es sakmaod elitaruli SaSxanaa, magaliTad gru-s specrazmebis SeiaraRebaSi es SaSxana mxolod SarSan gamoCda, imdenad Zviria igi. garda amisa, maT hqondaT Zalian seriozuli iaraRi, “teplovizori”, Ramis da dRis xedvis aparati, misi fasi daaxloebiT 8 000 dolaria. mniSvnelovania isic, rom am iaraRis xmarebas erT da or dReSi ver iswavli. misi gamoyenebis Seswavlas Tvenaxevari, ori Tve sWirdeba. es imaze migvaniSnebs rom es razmi wina dRes Sekrebili ar aris. im kadrebidan gamomdinare, rac eTerSi Cans, SemiZlia giTxraT, rom TiToeul maTgans 50 kilogrami tvirTi wileobda calxela axmedi, romelic zustad im droisaTvis iyo wamosuli detalebis dasazusteblad da mosalaparakeblad. amitom razmis wevrebi xifaTs ar elodnen. _ Tqveni azriT, ramdenad SesaZlebelia aseTi SeiaraRebiT razmma sazRvari SeumCnevlad gadakveTos? _ rac Seexeba imas, Tu rogor gadaadgildebodnen isini, an saqarTvelos xelisflebam unda aRiaros, rom qveyanaSi aranairi usafrTxoebis sistema ar arsebobs, an saqmeSi Tavisi warmomadgenlis Tanamonawileobaze unda gaakeTos gancxadeba. icavda Ss sammarTvelos mier gakeTebuli gancxadebebi da videomasalebi, rom savaraudod, specoperacia Catarda spontanurad, detalebis ganuxilvelad da saerTo SeTanxmebis gareSe. garda amisa, roca raRac xdeba – aucileblad unda daisvas kiTxva – vin moigo? amjerad, am kiTxvaze pasuxi ar sCans. xelisuflebas namdvilad araferi mougia. piriqiT, Tu ityvis, rom razmma TavisiT moaxerxa lafanyuramde misvla, gamodis, xelisuflebam da qveynis uSiSroebam sakuTari ususuroba unda aRiaros, xolo Tu am razmTan xelisuflebis is rom es adamianebi mTispira tyeebiT gadaadgildebodnen, es ar aris gasamarTlebeli mizezi. aseTi razmis ekipirebas, Cacma-daxurvas da Semdeg mis daZvras, viRac mainc Seaswrebda Tvals. ase, rom, es razmi lafanyuramde TavisiT ver mividoda. _ SegviZlia Tu ara imis Tqma, rom am razmis Camoyvana da ekipireba xelisuflebis dakveTiT moxda? _ amis Tqma Zalian sapasuximgebloa. msgavsi gancxadeba did yuradRebas miiqcevs, ara mxolod qarTuli sazogadoebis, aramed sxva qveynebisac, maT Soris ruseTis. erT mSve- kavSiri dadginda, es faqti saakaSvilis imijze didi dartyma iqneba. _ Tqveni azriT, mainc raSi SeiZleboda dasWirveboda xelisuflebas msgavsi razmis Seqmna? _ Tavdasacavad, saidumlo davalebebis Sesasruleblad. ramdenime wlis winaT iyo saubari imazec, rom xelisuflebas surs Seqmnas ucxouri legioni. mogexsenebaT, arsebobs msgavsi regionebi safrangeTsa da espaneTSi. Tumca, mas Semdeg am legionis Seqmnaze araferi msmenia. ase, rom dazustebiT verafers vityvi. Tamuna keSelava 14 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. gvesaubreba partia `Tavisufali saqqarTvelos~ Tavmjdomare kaxa kukava:: _ kaxa, bolo dros xelisufleba da opoziciac saerTaSoriso damkvirveblebis vizitiT aRfrTovanebas ver malaven, romelTac Cveni arCevnebis samarTlianoba unda gansazRvron. Aqamde, maTgan mxolod es fraza dagvamaxsovrda _ garkveuli xarvezebi iyo, magram saboloo jamSi arCevnebi demokratiulad Catardao. ras unda velodoT amJamad? _ vfiqrob, saerTaSoriso organizaciebis imedi ar unda gvqondes, umjobesia maTze adekvaturi warmodgena viqonioT. vin arian isini? _ isini arian evropelebi da amerikelebi. evropelebi saqarTvelos Sida saqmeebSi veranairad ver Caerevian, maqsimum SeuZliaT Zalian rbili gancxadebebis gakeTeba. rac Seexeba, aSS-s, maT gavlenis berketebi aqvT, Tumca unda gvesmodes, rom aSS-sTvis mTavari iqneba ara is Tu ramdenad demokratiulad Catardeba CvenTan arCevnebi, aramed is, Tu romeli Zala CaiTvleba ufro pro-amerikulad. dRes, NDI-s, `ai-rais~ kvlevebiT, aseve, makkeinis, obamas, klintonis gancxadebebiT da zogadad amerikuli polit.elitis poziciidan gamomdinare, naTelia _ aSS miiCnevs, rom misi strategiuli mokavSire, am regionSi, mixeil saakaSvilia. sanam es pozicia ar Seicvleba, manamde fiqri imaze, rom amerikeli damkvirveblebi saqarTveloSi Catarebul arCevnebze kritikul daskvnas daweren, warmoudgenelia. 2003 weli gamonaklisi iyo zustad imitomac, rom Jvania, saaakaSvili (maSin maT sorosis premiebi miiRes) proamerikul Zalebad, xolo SevardnaZe yofil sabWoTakavSirel funqcionerad iTvleboda. dRes, viTareba piriqiTaa Secvlili. saakaSvili im qveynis lideria, romelic avRaneTSi da eraySi umsxviles misiebs agzavnis, xolo biZina ivaniSvili maTTvis rusi oligarqia, romelmac sakuTari kapitalis Cadeba saqarTveloSi gadawyvita. _ am fonze ras niSnavda makkeinis gancxadeba? _ makkeinis gancxadeba simptomaturi iyo. man Tqva _ ivaniSvilma dagvarwmuna, rom ruseTTan yovelgvari kavSiri gawyvita. es Zalian saintereso gancxadebaa, sadac ori momenti Cans _ pirveli _ ivaniSvili makkeinTan Sexvedrisas Tavs imarTlebda, saubari iyo ara arCevnebze, aramed imis darwmunebaze, rom ruseTTan araferi akavSirebs da meore, TavisTavad, faqti, rom ivaniSvili ruseTTan iyo kavSirSi orive mxaris mier aRiarebulia. mkiTxvelma ise ar gaigos, TiTqos me ivaniSvils bralad vuyeneb ruseTTan kavSirs. ra Tqma unda, es ase araa. aramed me Semdegs vambob _ aSSsTvis ivaniSvili braldebulia, lebas iReben. politikur gadawyetilebebs iReben TeTr saxlSi, saxelmwifo departamentSi, senatSi, kongresSi. lobistebs SeuZliaT garkveuli, individualuri sakiTxebis gadawyveta, romelzec ar arsebobs aSSs Camoyalibebuli, principuli pozicia. im sakiTxebze, romelzec aSS-s mTavrobas Tavis strategia aqvs Camoyalibebuli, Zalian sasaciloa vifiqroT, rom lobistebi masze raime zegavlenis moxdenas SeZleben. aSS-s evraziis, ruseTis mosazRvre regionebSi Tavisi Camoyalibebuli xedva aqvs, romelic ar Seicvleba imisda miuxedavad Seicvlebian Tu ara prezidentebi. bisTvis kargi koziri iqneboda. amitom, opoziciurma partiebma imaze ki ar unda isaubron vin dagvTvalos, aramed ramdenad misaRebia calkeuli opoziciuri partiebisTvis 2012 wlis 1 oqtombris Semdgom saparlamento umciresobis reJimSi brZolis gagrZeleba. ai, es aris mTavari SekiTxva da ara is, dagvTvlian Tu ara. sazogadoebas ainteresebs risTvis vibrZviT _ meore Tu pirveli adgilisTvis. `Tavisufali saqarTvelo~ vacxadebT: im SemTxvevaSi, Tu opoziciuri partiebi jamSi 50 procentze ufro naklebs aiReben, mzad varT Cvens kolega opozicioner ZalebTan erTad revoluciaSi miviRoT monawileoba da ara ub- kaxa kukava: pirdapir vacxadeb, Tu saWiro gaxda, revoluciaSi uyoymanod miviReb monawileobas! mixeil saakaSvili ki maTi sisxlxorceuli mokavSire. aqedan gamomdinare, prognozireba ar unda gagviWirdes, Tu vis mxares daiWers aSS. _ avRaneTSi da eraySi umsxvilesi misiebis gagzavnac xom ar aris imis winapiroba, rom aSS arCevnebis gayalbebis SemTxvevaSi Tvals daxuWavs da kvlav demokratiuli arCevnebis Catarebas mogvilocavs. _ ra Tqma unda, zustad asea, saqarTvelos xelisuflebis misia swored amas emsaxureba. es momenti adekvaturad unda Sefasdes. rodesac rigi opoziciuri partiebi gveubnebian, TiTqos makkeini ama Tu im sakiTxTan mimarTebaSi Tavis sasargeblod daarwmunes, es ubralod xalxis motyuebaa. maT makkeini veraferSi ver daarwmunes. es ubralod Tavis motyuebaa. aSS SeiZleba daTanxmdes, rom ruseTTan kavSirgawyvetili `qarTuli ocneba~ meore adgilze gaiyvanos. _ maSin risi imedi aqvs opozicias, es marto `qarTul ocnebas~ xom ar exeba, `Tavisufali saqarTveloc~ xom pro-r rusuli Zalad moiazreba. _ Cven unda mivmarToT klasikas, roca qveyana damoukidebeli araa, aseT qveyanaSi erovnul-ganmanTavisuflebeli moZraoba unda daiwyos, romelic qveynis realur damoukideblobas moipovebs. dRes erovnul-ganmanTavisuflebeli moZraobis Canasaxs `Tavisufali saqarTvelo~ warmoadgens. Tumca, ra Tqma unda, es srulfasovan erovnulganmanTavisuflebel moZraobaSi mas Semdeg gadaizrdeba, rac sazogadoebis kritikuli masis mxridan mxardaWeras miviRebT. vfiqrob, dRes gamofxizlebis etapze varT. sazogadoebis garkveul nawilSi gamofxizleba daiwyo, Tumca vfiqrob, umravle- ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~ internetSi www.saertogazeti.com ze SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-z soba mainc buranSia. sazogadoeba isev im azrebis da ideebis tyveobaSia _ aSS mxars dagviWers, ivaniSvilma lobistebi daiqirava da a.S. rodesac am buranidan gamovalT da davinaxavT, rom saqarTvelos dolari ki ara, aramed damoukidebloba gadaarCens, mxolod amis Semdeg SevZlebT realuri politikuri procesis daZvras. _ rac Seexeba lobisturi kompaniebis daqiravebas, Tu isini saqarTeloSi Catarebul arCevnebs ar aRiareben, xom ar aris safrTxe es xelisuflebam `lobistur SeTqmulebad~ gamoacxados? _ dRes Seqmnili saarCevno garemos gaTvaliswinebT, bevri arCevnebis gayalbebaze saubrobs. Tumca, rigi opoziciuri partiebi imasac amboben, rom aseT SemTxvevaSi meore dRes quCaSi gamovlen da dae, msofliom dagvTvalos ramdeni varTo. Tu maincdamainc Cvens daTvlaSia xsna, xom ar sjobda arCevnebamde daveTvaleT? _ vfiqrob, aseTi tipis saubrebi daTvlaze, Zalian saxifaToa imitom, rom es niSnavs, rom calkeul opoziciur Zalebs konkretuli gegma ar aqvT da raRac zogadi frazebiT saubroben. daTvla _ es ukiduresad _ minda giTxra, rom lobistebs aSS-Si aranairi zegavlena ar aqvT. miTebi lobistebis Sesaxeb Zalian gadaWarbebulia. imdenad diskreditrebuli iqna maTi saqmianoba, rom roca obama aSS-s prezidentad airCies, erT-erTi pirveli iniciativa, riTac man kongress mimarTa lobistebis akrZalva iyo. lobistebi arian meqrTameebi, sabWoTa kavSiris drosac iyo xalxi, visac obexeSi, cekaSi, tekaSi saqmis Cawyoba SeeZloT. ise ar unda warmovidginoT, TiTqos lobistebi politikur gadawyveti- araseriozulia imitom, rom jer erTi aravin aravis ar daTvlis, meorec _ Tu daTvlian, am ricxvs Seamcireben da samze gayofen da rac mTavaria, sisulelea imis molodini, rom vinc xmas gvaZlevs yvela arCevnebze modis. levan gaCeCilaZem saprezidento arCevnebze oficialurad 500 aTasi xma aiRo, realurad, albaT es 700 aTasi xma iyo, magram mitingze 100 aTas kacze meti ar mosula. vinmes rom daveTvaleT da eTqva 100 aTasi xma misces levan gaCeClaZeso, es namdvilad xelisufle- ralod masobriv aqciebSi, maT Soris, mzad varT revoluciaSi monawileoba Cveni piradi usafrTxoebis riskis fasad gavwioT. sxva opozicioneri partiebisgan aseTi konkretuli gancxadebebi ar gakeTebula. saubrebi imis Sesaxeb, rom dagviTvalon, Segvamowmon da a.S. es ufro ZiriTad SekiTxvaze Tavis aridebas hgavs _ daTanxmdebian Tu ara isini 30 procentiani saparlamento umciresobis Seqmnas. _ xelisuflebas gayalbebis amouwuravi berketi aqvs. rogor fiqrob, Tu marTla 50 procentze dabali iqna opoziciuri partiebis jami, SeiZleba revoluciamde mivideT? _ es damokidebulia erT adamianze _ biZina ivaniSvilze. zustad vici, rom `Tavisufali saqarTvelo~ arCevnebis gayalbebas ar Seegueba. aseve, zustad vici, rom TargamaZe, alasania, `respublikelebi~, `leiboristebi~ iseve rogorc wina arCevnebze, axlac aucileblad Seeguebian morig gayalbebas. magram ar viciT, ra pozicias daikavebs biZina ivaniSvili. misi pozicia gadamwyveti iqneba. Tu igi ityvis, rom arCevnebis Sedegebs unda SeveguoT, maSin `Tavisufali saqarTvelo~ marto verafers Secvlis. Tu igi ityvis revoluciaze mivdivarTo, maSin `respublikelebis~ da `memarjveneebis~ pozicia sazogadoebisTvis uintereso iqneba. dRes, ZalTa ganlageba iseTia, rom sazogadoebrivi azris sakontrolo paketi biZina ivaniSvils uWiravs. _ bevri opozicioneri mainc darwmunebiT saubrobs 1 oqtombers sakuTar gamarjvebaze. magram ra igulisxmeba amaSi. xom SeiZleba zogi warmatebad 10 procentiT Sesvlas Tvlides? _ ki, swored amas vambob, Tako. Jurnalistebma maT unda hkiTxoT _ ras izamT, Tu mandatebis 20 procents aiRebT vicespikeris postze iyriT kenWs Tu rusTavelze barikadebze dadgebiT? esaa mTavari SekiTxva, romelzec yvelas pasuxebi SemiZlia vivaraudo, biZina ivaniSvilis garda. saerTo gazeTi 15 #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. _ kaxa, rac Seexeba saarCevno siebs, aq ufro mZime suraTi ikveTeba, vidre 1.200 aTasi xmis dauzusteblobaa. erT-eerT satelevizio eTerSi oponents `tele-kkardakaris~ mowyoba SesTavaze. _ diax, swored dRes movawyveT `tele-kardakari~, viyaviT walkis raionis erT-erT sofelSi, sadac 700 amomrCevlidan mxolod 50 cxovrobs. Tumca, iuridiuli procedurebiT xelisuflebasTan dava arafris momcemia. rogorc dasawyisSi vaxsene am process verc saerTaSoriso damkvirveblebi ver gadawyveten. Rrmad mwams, rom xelisuflebis Secvla SesaZlebelia revoluciiT. _ maSin arCevnebs ra azri aqvs, miTumetes, Tu viciT, rom arCevnebi ukve gayalbebulia? _ ra Tqma unda, amaze ori azri ar arsebobs. mgonia, rom aramarto xelisufleba ayalbebs arCevnebs, aramed opoziciac maSin, roca eWvis qveS ayenebs sakiTxs _ gaayalbebs Tu ara xelisufleba arCevnebs. ra Tqma unda, arCevnebi gayal- ara dondlo, aramed kargad momzadebul profesionalebTan. es istoriuli magaliTia. Cvenc Tu vityviT, verafersac ver gaayalbeben, aSS CvenTanaa, yvelaferi mogvarebuliao, mere saarCevno ubanze sruli garRveva rom gveqneba, amas veranairad ver davicavT. piriqiT, unda vTqvaT, rom saqme gvaqvs kriminalur reJimTan, romelic arCevnebSi minimum xmebis 60 procentis moparvas apirebs da Tavi CaquCiT unda gavuWeWyoT. es unda iyos Cveni strategia. _ isev gayalbebis SemTxvevaSi quCaSi gamosvlis gegmas davubrundebi. xom SeiZleba saakaSvilma es mSvidobiani aqcia okupanti ruseTis mier saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg provocirebul qmedebad miiCnios, euTo da sxva organizaciebi, fexebze daikidos da qveyanas Tavad Seuqmnas safrTxe? _ ki, safrTxe arsebobs. daRestnis operacia amis pirveli magaliTia. ra Tqma unda, saakaSvili amas gaakeTebs da gaukeTebia kidec msgavsi _ ganmuxurSi, xurCaSi, axla lafanyurSi. bebulia. ra, ar viciT, rom xaratiSvili minimum 55 procents dauwers `nacionalur moZraobas~? vinc ambobs, rom ar viciT, ar gaakeTebs amas xaratiSvilio, is gulubryvilo ki ara Tanamonawilea. vinc axla ambobs Cven xmebs davicavTo, es is xalxia, vinc xmamaRla ambobda _ Cven SevcvliT am xelisuflebaso da mere arCevnebSi gamarjveba gigi ugulavas miuloces. es xalxi dRes ambobs arCevnebs ver gaayalbebeno. amitom es arCevnebis gayalbebaSi Tanamonawileobaa. sxvaTaSoris, hitlers aRwerili aqvs propaganda, romelsac germanuli da britanuli samxedro Stabebi erTmaneTis winaaRmdeg eweodnen. saintereso magaliTia. Misi TqmiT: germanel jariskacs, rogorc barbaros, velurs ise aRwerdnen da britaneli jariskaci moralurad mzad iyo am saSineli Zalis mqone mebrZolis gasanadgureblad, radgan misgan Tavi daecva. germaneli samxedro propaganda britanel jariskacs aRwerda, rogorc pijakSi gamowyobil, arafrismaqnis, uniaTo axalgazrdas da germaneli jariskacebi absoluturad araseriozulad iyvnen ganwyobilni, rac mavnebeli iyo. roca isini pirispir Sexvdnen britanel jariskacebs aRmoaCines, rom saqme hqondaT vinc aseT safrTxeebs ar elodeba da mere ityvis _ ase rom ar momxdariyo arCevnebs movigebdiTo, aseTi xalxi yvela vano merabiSvilis Statiani TanamSromelia, aseve, isinic, vinc eubnebian biZina ivaniSvils, rom yvelaferi kargadaa. _ kaxa, yovelTvis ambobdi, rom opozicia unda gaerTiandes da erTiani frontiT Seutios xelisuflebaso. _ esec ivaniSvilis gadasawyvetia. varaudebi maqvs, Tu ratom ar xdeba es gaerTianeba. minda giTxraT, rom Tu gaerTianeba ar Sedgeba, opoziciam SeiZleba absoluturad yvela maJoritaruli olqi waagos. wagebasa da mogebas Soris, ratomaa aseTi rTuli gadawyvetilebis miReba, CemTvis gaugebaria. _ isic nu dagvaviwydeba, rom saakaSvili 2013 wlamde arsad midis. _ parlamentSi umravlesobiT mosvla, ra Tqma unda, realurad Secvlis qveyanaSi politikur klimats. geTanxmebiT, es ar niSnavs, rom amiT yvelaferi dasruldeba. esaa reJimi, romelic bolomde ibrZolebs, Tumca parlamentSi umravlesobiT mosvla, es am arCevnebze gadasawyveti amocanaa. es Tu miiRweva, brZola gamarjvebad CaiTvleba. Tamar SveliZe ratom wyevlis meufe iosebi gurulebs? ramdenime dRis win saagento `iverionma~ informacia gaavrcela _ Semoqmedelma episkoposma meufe iosebma (kikvaZe) mrevls qadagebisas mouwoda _ arCevnebSi mxari nacmoZraobas dauWireT, vinc ar Semoxazavs xuTians, imas wyevla da SeCvenebao da wyevlis iseTi korianteli dauyenebia, gurulebi ambobdnen Turme _ wyevla rogor ar gagvigonia, magram aseTi saSineli _ araferio. aseTi mimarTvebi da qadagebebi ambionidan aRar gvikvirs, magram amas Tu Semoqmedeli episkoposi ikadrebda, aRar gvegona; radgan, vinc gurulebis gaWirvebas, siRaribe-siglaxakes icnobs, amas namdvilad ar izamda; an ra dasawyevli varT gurulebi, isedac cotani varT?! cxeli politikuri viTarebebis dros guriis macxovreblebi yovelTvis gamoirCeodnen siTamamiT, gamWriaxobiT, `revolucionerobiT~. is ki ara, mewieTeli (sofeli Coxatauris raionSi) ubralo glexis biWi, SemdegSi saxelovani mwerali Wola lomTaTiZe ruseTis dumis wevri gamxdara, sisxls uSrobda Turme imperialistebs da Sen, meufeo, wyevla-krulviT wyvdiadisken mierekebi gurulebs? karga xani vyoymanobdi, meufe iosebze meTqva is, rasac mTeli guria laparakobs, magram iZulebuli gavxdi, bolos da bolos momeTxro is, rac aravisTvis araa dRes dafaruli. guriis meufe iosebi is RvTismsaxuria, Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo, romelic, rogorc meufis naTesav-axloblebi amboben, Zalian uyvars patriarqs da surs mudmivad gverdiT hyavdes, magram guria ar eTmoba Turme meufe iosebs. guriisadmi siyvaruli wyevlaSi rom gamoixata, dainaxeT, magram gasul wels, ivlisSi, sinodis Sekrebaze religiis kanonze xelis mowerac miumateT, mwvalebeli gareginis da mixeil saakaSvilis saameblad da meufis portretis konturebi moxazuli geqnebaT. SarSandeli sinodis Sekrebis Semdeg dro gavida, Seicvala politikuri situacia saqarTveloSi da axlaxan sinodis Sekrebaze axali ganCineba gamoitanes. mRvdelmsaxurTa gadawyvetileba meufe andriam (gvazava) gorisa da samTavisis mTavarepiskoposma gaacno sazogadoebas _ samRvdelo pirebs ekrZalebaT politikur procesebSi CarTva. sinodis wevrebis nawili, albaT, emorCileba am gadawyvetilebas, magram maTi umetesoba rom urCia, xedavs amas mTeli saqarTvelo. ara mxolod meufe iosebi, meufe abraamic _ dasavleT evropis mitropoliti sazRvargareT qadagebs nacionalebis mxardaWeras, meufe kalistrate ki, romelic quTaTel-gaenaTeli mTavarepiskoposis titulis garda, CemTvis jer dauzustebeli informaciiT, nucubiZis platoze feSenebeluri bar-sastumros mflobeli romaa da Tavgadakluli nacional-episkoposi, es mTelma saqarTvelom icis da ecodineba zeciur mxedrobasac. meufe iosebi ufro Sors wasula, mowodebebs aRar dasjerebia da wyevlaze gadasula nacmoZraobis da mixeil saakaSvilis saameblad. gurul meufes, ramdenadac vici, xatva emarjveba, Torem meufe kalistratesaviT leqsebs dauwerda saakaSvils, romelsac gulis fancqaliT Sexvedria da didi amalac dauxvedrebia guriaSi axlandeli stumrobisas. me Coxatauridan var da iq uamravi nacnobi myavs. erTma megobarma amas winaT gulistkiviliT miTxra: TandaTan ivseba eklesia mrevliT, magram maincadamainc ver vendobiT meufe iosebs, romelic cxvirsaxociviT icvlis ucxour manqanebs da Tavisi epar- guriaSi dRemde saarakod dadis da zRaprad yvebian meufis dedis 100-kacian dabadebis dReebze. did pativs scems Turme meufe dedas _ stilistebs da manikur-pedikurSicebs qiraobs da Sanelis da versaCes kabebSi gamowyobils svams dResaswaulebsa da iubileebze. meufis deda ukve asakovani qali yofila da CoxataurSi misi mezoblebi amboben, saxlis saqmeebSi TiTo monazoni yovelTvis exmareba da emorCileba meufe iosebis dedaso, xolo ojaxis kuTvnil aTasobiT heqtar miwas berebi amuSavebeno. rogorc guriaSi amboben, meufe iosebs xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebTan erTad wilebi hqonia sxvadasxva biznesebSi da Zalian axlo urTierTobebic hqonia ama qveynis ZlierebTan. mixeils saakaSvilis namestnikTan, amJamad, nacionaluri moZraobis maJoritari deputatobis kandidatTan ramaz nikolaiSvilTan SeTanxmebiT daSales Turme sofel xidisTavSi kulturis saxli da kaklis da wablis ZviradRirebuli masala bolo fiCxamde gauzidavs meufe iosebs. soflelebs rom ukiTxavT, sad migaqvT, isev eklesias movaxmaroTo, meufes gajavrebuls gulze mjiRi daurtyams: me mimaqvs da ra gindaT, axla miTxariTo. xma ver amouRiaT gurulebs, meufes ver Sepasuxebian. qiis mRvdlebi lamis mojamagireebad daisvaso. yvelaze metad iman damwyvita guli, mama giorgis (jibuti) mrevlis winaSe sastiki Seuracxyofa rom miayena patara mizezis gamoo. rogorc aRmoCnda, sakuTari ZviradRirebuli jipiT Zalian xSirad xedaven gurulebi meufe iosebs surebis tyeSi, xe-tyis biznesebis sakurTxeblad, xolo RorTafonSi (tyes ewodeba) Coxatauridan 5-6km-ze berebis keliebi auSenebia, skebi gaumravlebiaT da baxmaros da nabeRlavis surnelovani yvavilebis neqtariT gamdidrebul tonobiT Tafls mamasisxlad yidis Turme guriis eparqiis patroni. meufe iosebma, romelmac sazogadoebaSi am bolo xans mawyevari meufis saxeli daimkvidra, imasac amboben, fui, eSmaks, da, jixeTis dedaTa monasterSi axalgazrda monazoni sayvarlad hyavso. ase laparakoben kaTalikospatriarqis ilia meoris `lubimSCik~ meufe iosebze gurulebi, romlebsac am bolo dReebSi meufis risxva wyevlad daatydaT Tavs. meufes wyevla rom axdes, celiT mosiarule miqel-gabriels win da ukan mouwevs sirbili, radgan, ramdenadac vici, mTeli guria `qarTul-ocnebas~ uWers mxars da ar amboben, Torem saakaSvili `xolerasaviT~ ejavreba TviT adgilobrivi xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebsac ki. Cems saTayvanebel guriaSi es xalxuri leqsi yvelam icis, xolo me kidev erTxel Sevaxseneb Cvens erTgul mkiTxvels: `dalocvili qriste RmerTi, oqros taxtiT dabrZandeba, xelSi saswori uWiravs, codva-madli iwoneba~. iranda kalandaZe 16 saerTo gazeTi qveyanaSi mimdinare politikur procesebze Tavis mosazrebas gviziarebs saqarTvelos mweralTa kavSiris Tavmjdomaris moadgile, galaqtion tabiZis premiis laureati, poeti baRaTer arabuli mwerali otia ioseliani xSirad igonebda, gulmosulma rogor hkiTxa erTxel wyaltuboSi, mis saxlSi stumrad myof saakaSvils: _ ras uSvrebi saqarTvelos, kvlav ukan, gamoqvabulisken migyavso? _ ara, me wina gamoqvabulisken mimyavso! _ viTom xumrobiT upasuxia saakaSvils... es ambavi imitom gavixsene, rom eWvi ar aris, dRes qveynis meTaurs saqarTvelo namdvilad ukan, qvis xanisken da gamoqvabulisken mihyavs... nacionalebisgan qvebis esoden moxSirebuli srola da maTi qceva amis maniSnebelia!.. rac ufro axlovdeba arCevnebi, dRiTi dRe miT ufro mZafrdeba da autaneli (SemaSfoTebeli) xdeba saarCevno garemo. mmarTveli partia yvelafers akeTebs movlenebis eskalaciisTvis, misi mTavari konkurentis ukanono dasjisa da saarCevno kanonebis monopolizaciisaTvis, rac saqarTvelos da Cven sazogadoebas sasikeTos arafers moutans da qveyanas samoqalaqo dapirispirebas uqadis... am yvelaferSi ki pasuxismgebloba, upirvelesad, xelisuflebas ekisreba, romelic valdebulia, saarCevno procesi civilur, demokratiul kalapotSi moaqcios... saqarTvelos xelisufleba, mosaxleoba, partiebi erTxel da samudamod unda mieCvion Tavisufali, demokratiuli principebiT arCevnebis Catarebas; saarCevno vadis gasvlis Semdeg aravisTvis ar unda iyos tragedia xelisuflebidan wasvla da ufleba-movaleobebis civilizebuli formiT gamarjvebuli ZalisTvis gadabareba, rogorc es ucxoeTis demokratiul qveynebSi xdeba. arc prezidentisTvis, arc mTavrobisa da parlamentisTvis xalxs samudamod ar miucia ndobis mandati da misi sxvisTvis gadacema arc tragedia unda iyos vinmesTvis da arc qveynis daqceva... dRes ki ra xdeba? 9-10-wliani mmarTvelobis Semdeg nacionalur moZraobas gamouCnda Rirseuli konkurenti biZina ivaniSvilisa da misi koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~ saxiT da nacelita agoniaSi, SokSi Cavarda! nacionalebma igrZnes, rom Zalauflebas kargaven da demokratiis, metic, adamianuri urTierTobebis yvela zRvars gadavidnen! rogorc Cans, maT gadawyvetili hqondaT (aqvT) xelisuflebaSi samudamod yofna da ivaniSvilis gamoCena didi dartyma iyo... biZina ivaniSvilis finansebis da avtoritetis SiSiT nacionalebma kontrolis palataSi auditis specialuri samsaxuri Seqmnes, romelic mxolod `qarTuli ocnebis~ represiebiT, ukanono dajarimebebiT, dayadaRebebiT aris dakavebuli, maSin, rodesac am organizaciis umTavresi movaleoba saxelmwifo biujetis xarjvis kontroli unda iyos!.. kontrolis palatis am samsaxurma, faqtobrivad, gaugona- #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. saakaSvili saqarTvelos qvis xanaSi dabrunebas upirebs... ri jarimebi daawesa koaliciis finansuri SemomwirvelebisTvis, isini araviTar kanonier dasabuTebas ar iziareben da yvelas, mxolod `varaudebiT~, uklebliv xuTmagi jarimiT sjian, rac uprecedento movlenaa msoflio qveynebis saarCevno cxovrebaSi, maSin roca nacionalebis Semomwirvelebs mwvane Suqi aqvT anTebuli da maT partiul salarosTan, viTom nebayofilobiT, SemomwirvelTa grZeli rigebi dgas; quCebi, satransporto saSualebebi gadafarulia nacionalebis sareklamo banerebiT, plakatebiT, maSin, roca arc erTi opoziciuri partiis baneri an plakati arsad Cans! TiTqmis asevea televiziebSi, radioSi, presaSi da amas xelisufleba Tanabar pirobebs eZaxis da xSirad laparakobs Tavisufali saarCevno garemos aucileblobaze, amasTan, sxvebsac `mouwodebs~ wesebis dasacavad, rac ucxoelTaTvis keTdeba, naxeT, ra demokratebi varTo! magram sinamdvile sxvaa: `qarTuli ocnebis~ TiTqmis yvela Sexvedra, ra Tqma unda, xelisuflebis mier provocirebuli incidentiT, gawev-gamoweviT, provokaciiT, qvebis sroliT, cemiT, Jurnalistebis SeuracxyofiT, gadamRebi videoaparaturis damtvreviT, ocnebis aqtivistebis ukanono daWeriT mTavrdeba, rac saarCevno process aranormalurs xdis! qvebis srolas kacobrioba gamoqvabulidan gamosvlisa da joguri cxovrebis Semdeg gadaeCvia, magram saakaSvili, samwuxarod, am qvebis sroliT, rogorc ukve iTqva, saqarTvelos kvlav qvebis xanaSi da gamoqvabulSi dabrunebas upirebs!.. es kargad unda dainaxon Cvenma dasavlelma da amerikelma partniorebma, CvenTan movlenilma saerTaSoriso damkvireblebma, radganac saqarTveloSi `demokratiis Suqura~ didi xania Caqra da Cven kvlav xelis cecebiT gviwevs politikur labirinTebSi gzis gagneba!.. ormagi standartebiT arCevnebis Catareba Cvens qveyanas verafer sasikeTos moutans! mosaxleoba polarizebulia da amaSi, pirvel rigSi, xelisuflebaa damnaSave! mixeil saakaSvili dRes mxolod nacionaluri moZraobis prezidentia _ is gaemijna danarCen saqarTvelos, man uaryo danarCeni saqarTvelo; vinc mas ar uWers mxars, yvela mtrad, jojod, majlajunad, garewrad, samSoblos moRalated, warsulis gadmonaSTad, bneleTis mociqulad, ruseTis agentad gamoacxada, rac saakaSvilis didi tragediaa; man sakuTari Tavi saqarTvelos mosaxleobis umravlesobis gareT daayena da amiT TviTonve Tqva uari mTliani saqarTvelos prezidentobaze! man dResaswaulebic ki: `didgoroba~, `beSumoba~, `baxmarooba~, mxolod nacionalur dResaswaulebad gamoacxada da sxvebs iq misvla aukrZala. `vaJaobac~ ki amis gamo meored Caatares. rac Seexeba ruseTis agentobas: am xelisuflebam Tavisi nebiT 37 strategiuli obieqti, maT Soris gazi, wyali, deni, sakomunikacio saSualebebi, wiaRiseuli simdidreebi da a.S. gadasca ruseTs! am dros sxvebisken TiTis gaSvera gaRma Sedavebis uazro politikaa da meti araferi! xelisufleba xSirad apelirebs ivaniSvilis gundis Zvel kadrebze (?!), maSin rodesac nacionalebis gundi, maTi sadebutato sia, maJoritarebis umravlesoba SevardnaZis droidan kargad axsovs xalxs; eseni avaldebulebda da veravin daaZalebda 1 miliard 300 milioni lari daxarja qarTuli saxelmwifoebriobis gansamtkiceblad, jaris, policiis, sxvadasxva infrastruqturis mSeneblobis dasafinanseblad, skolebis, saavadmyofoebis, gzebis, eklesiamonastrebis mSeneblobisa da restavraciisTvis, Cinovnikebis xelfasebisTvis, gaWirvebulTa da avadmyofTa daxmarebisTvis, kulturis, xelovnebis, sazogadoebis uxelfasod da upensiod darCenili cnobili warmomadgenlebis stipendiebisTvis! maSin, rodesac xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi, TviTon prezidenti da misi ministrebi, saakaSvilis naTesavebi, ojaxis wevrebi, romlebsac xelisuflebaSi mosvlamde araferi gaaCndaT, uceb milionerebi gaxdnen! saidan? zeciuri, RvTaebrivi madli gadmovida maTze Tu ra moxda? saxelmwifos, igive Cveni biujetis, ucxouri grantebis miTvisebiT, elitaruli korufciiT, monopoliuri samsaxurebis SeqmniT maT saqarTveloSi sakuTari saxelmwifo Seqmnes, sadac mxolod TviTon grZnoben zRaprulad Tavs! maT sakuTari komunizmi aiSenes saukeTeso xelfasebiT, 100-aTasiani premiebiT; samsaxuris ZviradRirebuli manqanebiT da didi qonebiT! maT daaviwydaT, rom Cvens qveyanaSi dRiTi dRe mravldebian nagvis urnebSi Cayude- arian Zveli komkavSirelebi, moqkavSirelebi, raikomis mdivnebi, deputatebi, ministrebi, da a.S. romlebic 15-20 welia qarTul politikaSi aqtiurad trialeben sxvadasxva partiebSi; romeli erTi CamovTvaloT: TviTon mixeil saakaSvili vin iyo? vin iyo mixeil maWavariani? xaTuna gogoriSvili? gigi wereTeli? eldar kvernaZe? merab samadaSvili? andac ruseTis samTavrobo da uSiSroebis samsaxurebTan axlobeli pirebi; kaxa benduqiZe, grigol vaSaZe, koba nayofia da sxvebi!.. saakaSvili opozicias _`qarTul ocnebas~ eubneba: meti saqme ara maqvs sadme wavide da Cemi aSenebuli Tqven dasangrevad CagabaroTo! vis eubneba amas saakaSvili? biZina ivaniSvils? romelmac, rodesac mas aravin buli, uxelfaso, umuSevari, upensio adamianebi, damcirebulni, Seuracxyofilni; daaviwydaT, rom arsebobs, xelisufalTagan mitovebuli, ganwiruli saqarTveloc, romelic maT mxolod arCevnebis dros agondebaT da 20-30-larian vauCerebiT, dapirebebiT, erTTviani dasaqmebebiT, kvlavac motyuebiT apireben xalxis moqrTamvas, sabolood ki _ arCevnebis gayalbebas!.. aqedanve Sesaswavlia xelisuflebasTan Sekruli, misi dakveTiT (dafinansebiT) momuSave socialuri kvlevis samsaxurebis saqmianoba! isini gegmazomierad, winaswar atareben saeWvo kvlevebs; partiebis reitingebis Sesaxeb amkvidreben azrs, TiTqosda nacionalur moZraobas orjer meti mxardamWeri hyavs, vidre qarTul ocnebas da sxva opoziciur Zalebs, rac mosaxleobis zombirebis, amgvari mcdari azris damkvidrebis mcdelobaa arCevnebis gasayalbeblad! amis Sesaxeb aqedanve unda gafrTxildnen es organizaciebi da maTi saTao ofisebis warmomadgenlebic an moxdes obieqturobiT cnobili sxva, neitraluri socialuri kvlevis samsaxurebis mowvevac; am sakiTxSi opozicia valdebulia, erToblivi ZalisxmeviT, saswrafod imoqmedos, Torem mere, rodesac xelisufleba maTi kvlevis, Sedegebis Sesabamis cifrebs dadebs arCevnebze, aRaraferi eSveleba! endiais da airais kvlevebi saqarTveloSi xelisuflebis dakveTiT da aq nacionalebis arasamTavroebis, arCevnebis gamyalbebeli, igive TarxniSvilis colis da sxvaTa pirdapiri monawileobiT mimdinareobs, rac gansakuTrebuli eWvis sababs iZleva! asevea egzitpolebis sakiTxic! wina arCevnebSi egzitpolebis gayalbebisaTvis gia nodia da Temur iakobaSvili ministris TanamdebobebiT daajildoves! _ aseTi warmatebuli saqarTvelo arasodes yofilao! _ xSirad moismenT prezidentisgan da misi uRirsebo, fuls da karieras daxarbebuli, saakaSvilis monebad qceuli nacionalebisgan! magram yvelam icis: xelisuflebis ugunurobiT teritoriebis ocprocentdakargul saqarTvelos warmatebuli ver daerqmeva!.. ucxoeTSi milionnaxevar moqalaqegadaxvewil, Svilebdakargul qveyanas warmatebuli ver daerqmeva!.. soflis meurneobamoSlil da mrewvelobadaqceul, biznesdayaCaRebul, umuSevrobiT gawamebul saqarTvelos warmatebuli ver daerqmeva!.. elitarul korufciaSi Caflul da gaRatakebul mosaxleobis patrons, uxelfaso, upensio, umuSevar, uimedo da uperspeqtivo adamianebis samSoblos warmatebuli ver daerqmeva!.. saqarTvelos mosaxleobam swori daskvna da arCevani unda gaakeTos! erT mxaresaa: 9-10-wliani ukanono, usamarTlo, ugunuri `moRvaweobiT~, saqarTvelos teritoriebis dakargviT, mkvlelobebiT, daWerebiT, dayadaRebebiT, represiebiT, sakuTari keTildReobisa da gamdidrebisaTvis dauokebeli ltolviT, xalxis xarjze auracxeli qonebis dagrovebis surviliT cnobili xelisufleba, da meore mxares dgas biZina ivaniSvili, didi qvelmoqmedi, samebis taZris amSenebeli, misi erovnuli, patriotuli, sazogadoebrivi da saxelmwifoebrivi saqmianobiT cnobili mamuliSvili, romlis fiqri saqarTvelos momavalze, aRorZinebaze, TiToeuli qarTvelis ukeTes cxovrebaze ocnebis axdeniskenaa mimarTuli!.. rogorc Cveni didi winapari ityoda: `Sen gijobs aw romeli(Ta)?!~ saerTo gazeTi 17 #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. `Cveni qveyana pataraa, magram rTuli _ aseTi rTuli saxelmwifos marTva Zalian Znelia~ vesaubrebiT kinodokumentalists, baton gia Wubabrias _ batono gia, axla winasaarCevno periodia, rac TavisTavad garkveul daZabulobas, amave dros Sinagan mobilizacias gulisxmobs. did politikas didi pretenziebi aqvs. Tqveni azriT, SerCa saqarTvelos diplomatiuri potenciali? _ iseTi rTuli saxelmwifos marTva, rogorc saqarTveloa, Zalian Znelia. samwuxarod, winaT saqarTvelo politikuri moRvaweebis importiori iyo. ruseTis pirveli dumis Tavmjdomare gaxldaT karlo CxeiZe. deidaCemisgan maxsovs, yveboda mis Sesaxeb. sityviT gamodioda, roca Svilis sikvdili Seatyobines. warbi ar Seuxria, ise daamTavra gamosvla da mere mixeda Tavis mwuxarebas. ramdenadac maxsovs, mere parizSi Tavi moikla. aseve ruseTis pirvel dumaSi gaxldaT kaki wereTeli, romelic, sxvaTa Soris, saCxeris raionidan gaxldaT, Worvilas pirdapir rom sofelia _ gorisa, iqedan. brwyinvale politikosi da oratori gaxldaT es pirovneba. da kidev bevri sxva adamiani SeiZleba CamogveTvala, vinc qveynis farglebs gareT akeTebda Tavis saqmes, inteleqtualuri importi xdeboda. _ iqneb raRac sistemis Secvlacaa saWiro? _ erTi ram unda gvaxsovdes: Tu demokratiul qveyanaSi gvinda cxovreba, prezidentebi unda icvlebodnen. brwyinvale sistemaa amerikis SeerTebul StatebSi _ oTx weliwadSi erTxelaa arCevnebi. aseTi cvalebadoba aris demokratiis maCvenebeli. aravis ar unda hqondes imis ufleba, dajdes prezidentis savarZelSi da fexi ar moicvalos. es farTo masStabis sakiTxebi gaxlavT da amaze minda yuradReba gamaxvildes, Torem Ciora ras gvelaparakeba ekranidan, naklebad mainteresebs. pirvel rigSi, pirovnebebi, moqalaqeebi unda iyvnen: daxvewilebi, imitom, rom qveyanas xalxi qmnis. Tundac aviRoT Cveni xandaxan uazro, tolerantoba. 1997 wels germaniaSi, dortmundtSi filmis premiera mqonda. kargad maxsovs germanelebi rogori SeSinebulebi iyvnen _ 6 milioni Turqia ukve CvenTan Semosuli da 30 meCeTi aqvT aSenebulio. germanelebs, amxela ers eSinia asimilaciis, Cven sami milioni varT. amdeni xalxi moskovSi erT kvartalSi cxovrobs. qarTuli miwa zRaprulia, modis yvela, visac ar ezareba, Cven xom yvelasTvis kargi maspinZlebi varT. aman mogvitana teritoriuli problemebi da kidev ra moxdeba, RmerTma uwyis. tolerantobasac Tavisi sazRvrebi aqvs. _ CvenTvis umjobesi iqneba erTmaneTi ufro gviyvardes, vidre sxvebi... _ meCvidmete saukuneSi italieli misioneri piedro de la vale werda: qarTvelebi ise rom ebrZodnen mters, rogorc erTmaneTs ebrZvian, maTi qveyana didi xnis win iqneboda Tavisufalio. RmerTma mogvca stumarTmoy- vareobis didi niWi, Tbili buneba, magram gvaqvs mankiereba, orpiroba, orguloba. merve saukuneSi ioane sabanisZem Tqva qarTvelebze: `irxevian viT lerwamni qarTagan ZlierTa~. meTvramete saukuneSi hegelma Tqva, qarTvelebi meryevi sulis xalxiao. dRevandel dRes 21e saukuneSi yoveldRe vxvdebiT amis magaliTebs. medroveebiTaa qveyana savse. ilia WavWavaZe mokles qarTvelebma, amaze uaresi ra unda eqnaT. puSkini da lermontovic mokles ruseTSi, magram iq sul sxva situacia da mizezi iyo. me ar meguleba qveyana, sadac eris mama moeklaT, miT umetes aseT patara qveyanaSi. _ pataraa qveyana da esec bevr problemas qmnis. rogor fiqrobT, kidev didxans viqnebiT ruseTsa da amerikaze damokidebuli? _ saqarTvelo mTeli xmeleTis nuli mTeli ori measedi Tu iqneba. Zalian pataraa, magram amave dros Zalian adgilzea. panamis arxiviTaa, masze gadis gza CrdiloeTidan samxreTisaken. amitom sWirdeba ruseTsac, amerikasac da sparseTsac. stalinma Tqva, yvelaze naklebi boroteba Cveni ruseTTan SeerTeba iyoo. jobia, aravisze iyo damokidebuli, magram roca aseTi patara qveyana xar, jobs, urTierToba daabalanso did mezobel saxelmwifoebTan. ruseTma amdeni xnis manZilze erTi jariskacic ki ar gaiyvana okupirebuli teritoriebidan da arc aravin atexavs oms Cveni gulisTvis. _ ra gamodis, ar viyaviT mzad damoukideblobisTvis? _ diax. mTavari problema TiToeul CvenTaganSia. franc kafka ambobda: inteligenciis mTavar amocanas Seadgens erovnul mankierebaTa Cveneba da gawmenda. saqarTvelos TiTqmis aRar hyavs namdvili inteligencia. me dokumentalisti var da Cven, reJisorebi, pirvel rigSi, adamianTmcodneebi varT. bevr rames sxvanairad vukvirdebi. vuyureb televizias, guli mereva, ra terminologiiT, ra qarTuliT saubroben. rogori cinizmiT laparakoben biZina ivaniSvilze, rom mas qveynis ukan, sabWoeTSi dabruneba unda da kidev amgvar sisuleleebs. es aris Tavxeduri tyuili, WuWyi da me mikvirs im xalxis, vinc Tavisi nebiT exveva am sibinZureSi. Tamuna qadagiZe mgzavroba rom mogiwevs xolme saqarTvelos qalaqebSi, raionebsa da soflebSi, naxav, yvela transportze, TvalSi mosaxvedr adgilebSi sul yvelgan, didi formatebiT aRbeWdilia e.w. `nacionaluri moZraoba~ da maTi saarCevno nomeri `5~, okupirebuli aqvT mTeli saarCevno sivrce. `nacionalebi~ aseTi aranacionaluri Zalisxmieri meTodebiT moqmedeben, axla rom SeinarCunon xelisufleba, mere xom TiTis ganZrevas marTlac veravin gabedavs, rogorc daimuqra saakaSvili. SevafasoT maTi saarCevno sloganebi. 1. dasaqmebao, magram riT? sakvirao bazrobebT? droebiT mSeneblobebiT? ucxoeli stumrebis momsaxurebiT? araviTari sabaziso mimarTulebebis SemoTavazeba mosaxleobis myari, mudmivi xalxs _ pirze akeriaT `nacionalebs~. ra sargebeli moutanes xalxs? gaRatakeba da ucxoeTSi gadaxvewa? kvlav bundovani dapirebebi, kvlav bundovani dapirebebi, kvlav rebusebi. 5. xolo 1000 lariani vauCeri _ es aris amomrCevlis pirdapiri mosyidva. erTi sityviT, yvelaferi im standartul wreze brunavs, romelzedac wina arCevnebis periodSi brunavda `nacmoZraoba~. kritika gvesmis, vTqvaT, romelime pi- rebis mokle periodSi man gamoiara didi sabrZolo gza, gamoibrZmeda politikurad, icis xalxis problemebi da maTi gadawyvetis gzebic. Sinaganad ramxela amaRlebuli unda iyo, rom daZlio piradi gancdebi qveynis interesebisaTvis da gamarTo Serigebis dialogi im mxaresTan, romlis SeiaraRebulma formirebebma mama dagixvrites. ramdenime Sexvedris Semdeg man didi ndoba moipova afxazebisa da rom ara Cveni dRevandeli xelisufle- arCevani gvmarTebs ucdomeli garantirebuli dasaqmebisaTvis. 2. jandacva yvelaso. janacvis ufleba axlac yvelas aqvs, magram ris safasurad? dazRvevebio, _ gaiZaxian. dazRvevebi isev xalxis gadasaxadebiT Seqmnili biujetis xarjze ar keTdeba? 3. Zlieri sofelio kargi slogania, oRond baton biZina ivaniSvilisagan gadamRerebuli. magram Zlieri sofeli Zlier soflis meurneobas eyrdnoba. Zlieri soflis meurneoba qarTuli miwebis ucxoelebze gayidviTa da qarTvelTa ayriT am miwebidan unda Seiqmnas? Tanac soflis meurneobis ganviTarebis araviTari kompleqsuri programa. 4. meti sargebeli rovnebebisagan romelime pirovnebaze, magram iseTi cilismwamebluri antireklama, rac biZina ivaniSvilis winaaRmdeg mimdinareobs. ver Tavsdeba zneobis raime kategoriaSi. amoraluria es antireklama. politikur brZolasac xom gaaCnia morali? magram xalxma icis da sjera, rom biZina ivaniSvilis programa Seqmnis swored saqarTvelos swrafi ganviTarebis SesaZleblobas, safuZvels, xolo `nacionalebisa~ kvlav ukusvlisken waiyvans qveyanas. batoni biZina ivaniSvili TanamSromlobda `nacionalebTan~ im imediT, rom qveynis ganviTarebas Seuwyobda xels. magram ver gaaTeTra Savi yorani _ xelisufleba. Tavad rom mova xelisuflebaSi da Tavad iqneba sakuTari finansebis ganmkargavi, realurad ar moaxmars xalxs? rasakvirvelia, moaxmars da mere rogor! ai, aseTi kaci RmerTma mogvivlina qarTvelebs yofnaaryofnis Jams. da am kacis uerTgulesi TanamebrZolia batoni irakli alasania. cxov- bis arakoreqtuloba, Serigebis gzebi ixsneboda, saakaSvilsa da mis garemocvas Cven ar vendobiT da afxazebi da osebi miendobian? gamoricxulia. es unda gvaxsovdes yvelas da gansakuTrebiT devnilebs. afxazeTisaken gza samegreloze gadis. aq deputatad gvWirdeba kaci, romelsac afxazeTSi pativiscemiT miiReben da endobian. amitom yvela zugdidelma da arazugdidelma, yvela devnilma, yvelam, visac saqarTvelos gamTlianeba surs, xma unda misces naRd qarTvels irakli alasanias! senakSi gansaxlebulo devnilebo, mTeli raioni unda amouyenoT gverdSi afxazeTis mkvidrs, cnobil mwerals da sazogado moRvawes guram odiSaras, raTa speqtakli `zRva, romelic Soria~ soxumSi daedgaT, afxazebTan erTad vuyuroT da davgmoT samaradJamod Tavsmoxveuli undobloba. devnilTa saerTo krebis saxeliT saqarTvelos uxucesTa darbazis aRmasrulebeli mdivani p-pp `Cveni afxazeTis~ Tavmjdomare roland niJaraZe 18 saerTo gazeTi au, magrad vicine... es ra gavige, xalxooo... nacionalebis siis #10, pirze rZeSeumSrali baRana, vinme marina Tu mariam sajaia - nacionalebis cnobili aqtivistis nazi aronias Svili yofila... xom gaxsovT es matrakveca qali? axla Svili ravari matrakveca da mazakvali iqneba, xom warmogidgeniaT... nazi aronias Svilis gulisTvis SecvaleT kanoni, Tqve farCakebo? #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. ba ruseTTan kavSirSi. senatori saqarTvelos moqalaqea Tu am arCevnebSi sakuTari partiiT gamodis? ramdeni? rodemde? ratom? es aris warmatebuli demokratia? sadac adamianebs yovelgvari gasamarTlebis gareSe, adgilze xvreten.. norvegielma teroristma, andres breivikma 77 adamianis sicocxle imsxverpla, magram breiviki aravis dauxvretia adgilze da dResac “Tavs kargad grZnobs”. am xalxis azriT guSin mixeil saakaSvili iyo Casuli samtrediaSi... miusamZimra im daRupuli eqimis ojaxs, romelic specoperacias Seewira... dedam miatira - Sen momikali Svili... saakaSvili mainc mivida am qalTan da gadaexvia... ra Tqma unda, televiziebma es aCvenes, anu gadaxvevis momenti... gamovida saakaSvili ojaxidan... dRes samtrediis gamgebels uflebamosileba SeuCeres... daibares (vin daibara gamgebeli da ra gvaria Tavad gamgebeli, es imaT gaarkvion, vinc infos moiparavs, rac araerTxel moxda) da uTxres... Tavad miSam kidev calke gaurCia saqme - rogor ver moaxerxe, Se boTe da uvargiso (misi sityvebia), ojaxi Semzadebuli dagexvedrebinao.. ise, ra mainteresebs da, senatori maq qeini ris safuZvelze svams kiTxvebs da arkvevs aris Tu ara esa Tu is pirovne- biWebs ki miakereT sityvierad “teroristebi” da CacxrileT.. saqarTvelosTan SedarebiT, amxela qveyanas _ britaneTs 2 teroristi ar hyavs da saqarTvelos xelisuflebam 3-milionian qveyanaSi bolo wlebia 300-mde `teroristi” aRmoaCina da Cacxrila, adgilze. qveyanaSi sadac sikvdiliT dasja gauqmebulia xalxs adgilze xvreten.. raRatom gaauqmeT sikvdiliT dasja Tuki adamianis sicocxles ase xelaRebiT, erT wamSi xelyofT??? TviTmfrinavis biWebs komunistebma bolo sityva mainc aTqmevines. SvebiT amovisunTqe! goka, Cveni gokuna gamogvesarCla “despoti biZinasagan” daCagrul maswebs...apa, rava egona “meocnebe SurismaZiebels?! magis dasasjeli maswebi iqeT moikiTxos. ra uflebiT ganacxada:”yvela xmis gamyalbebels davsjio, maT Soris maswavleblebsaco...”aba, biWo, SegveSinda... Cveni sxeuli aRar gvtkiva, Zmebo, axla Tqveni sxeuli gvtkiva... d Tqvi, Sen, benoon, zed dmirdadi: kargad metad d bevri yuri gaqvs, amitom ar gesmis, magram erTi yuri rom gqonod da, romelic moismend da, da gaigebd da, aRar dagWird debod da mtkiceba. da movid des said dumlo mgzavri, benooni: und raTa ganikiTxos msoflio da Cven, kid dobnis mgzavrni, davjd debiT masTan erTad d samsjavroze. Sevud dgeT samzad diss gankiTxvis dRisaTvis?! mixail naimi gasul kviras saqarTvelo lopotas xeobaSi umowyalod Caxocil 14 axalgazrda meomars dastiroda da rogorc qisti dedebi icemdnen gulSi mjiRs, simwriT ikvnetdnen tuCs da mdumare glovaSi aqsovdnen gulis balRams, ise iyo yvela qarTveli deda... auRelveblad ver Sevxede daxocilTa gvamebs teleekranze da maSinve mivxvdi: qistebis sikvdilma ufro damisera guli da qarTvelebisa _ imdenad ara... yvelam viciT, ra ubedureba gaiara CeCneTma bolo wlebSi, magram saqarTvelom ra ubedurebac naxa, TviTon varT amis rma, aravinaa amis gamkiTxavi. Cven aRar gvikvirs qarTvelebis xocva da Jleta arc qarTvelebisgan, arc afxazisgan, arc osisgan, arc rusisgan, arc avRanelisgan, erayelisgan da TviT im didebuli amerikelisganac. megobrobaze, urTierTgatanaze, vaJkacobaze, namusis Senaxvaze ucxoeTSi filmebs iReben, radgan aseTi mcnebebi iq TiTqmis gamqralia. CvenTan rac darCa, isic undaT waSalon da Zveli kavkasiuri fic-vercxloba mtrobiT da gautanlobiT Secvalon. amaze ocnebobda yovelT- gamsaxurdias `saerTo kavkasiuri saxlic~ ki undoda Seeqmna. mas CeCnebi dResac kavkasiis prezidents eZaxian. ki, magram, zogierTi metyvis, umizezod araferi xdeba, raimeSi isinic iqnebodnen damnaSaveo. es araa gamarTleba. araviTari politika ar wydeba adamianebis gareSe, xolo adamiani, romelic `politikas~ qmnis, yvelaze Zvirfasia TviT am `politikaSi~... amboben, rom, savaraudod, `qarTul politikas~ Seewirnen es biWebi, romlebmac uari Tqves ivaniSvilis likvidaciazeo. ivaniSvilis likvidacia, momswre. afxazeTis omidan dawyebuli, samoqalaqo omiT, avRaneTis, erayis omebSi uazrod Caxocili qarTveli biWebis cinkis kuboebiT Camosveneba Cveulebrivi ambavi gaxda, cxinvalis omSi rom Cveni Zmebis sisxli da Zvali iyo erTmaneTSi aTqvefili, amasac gavusworeT Cveni aTasgzis ubedurebis mxilveli Tvali, nacmoZraobam, am bandam, sisxlsmowyurebulma xrovam rom zogi quCaSi Caxoca da zogi sadRac tye-RreSi, rogorc sanadirod gamzadebulma mdeva- vis mteri da amitomac iyo marTlmorwmune vainaxebSi musulmanoba rom CaTeses. aq rom mTel kavkasia marTlmadidebeli qristiani yofiliyo, xom warmogidgeniaT, ra gulis xeTqva eqneboda zogierTebs. aTeuli wlebia Crdilokavkasielebi TavianTi samSoblosTvis (samSoblo xom ganyenebuli mcneba araa?) ibrZvian, sisxls Rvrian, qalebic iaraRasxmuli omoben. daingra CeCneTi, ganadgurda grozno, gadaixvewnen CeCnebi, inguSebi, yabardoelebi da Tan waiRes guliT samSoblo. marto zviad gamsaxurdia ki ara, ilia WavWavaZec ambobda, Cveni saSveli araa Crdilokavkasielebis gareSeo. zviad madloba RmerTs, ar moxda, magram maSin gamecineba mwared, aseT daujerebel ambavs Tu ityvis es xelisufleba garkveuli drois Semdeg: gamoZiebam aCvena, rom es axalgazrdebi ivaniSvilis mokavSireebi yofilan da qarTuli saxelmwifoebriobis dangreva udodaTo... am biWebis sisxli daaRrCobs xelisuflebas gankiTxvis dRes. es aris bolo wveTi nacionaluri mTavrobis codva-madlis fialaSi... yvela qarTvels, yvelas stkiva dRes qistebis e.i. CeCnebis tkivili. Cveni sxeuli, dafleTilia da aRar gvtkiva, Zmebo, axla Tqveni sxeuli gvtkiva... iranda kalandaZe saerTo gazeTi 19 #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. politikaSi wasvlamde ioseb juRaSvili Ramis 2 saaTze Cadis saguramoSi. qalbaton olRa guramiSvils (ilia WavWavaZis meuRles) aRviZebinebs ukve daZinebul ilias da masTan saubarSi mTel Rames atarebs. mxolod amis Semdeg midis ioseb juRaSvili politikaSi. iliasgan unda moesmina stalins im “saerTo niadagis Teoriis” Sesaxebac, romelic ilia WavWavaZes “aRmaSeneblis saqarTvelos” modelze hqonda Seqmnili. arsSi, aRmaSeneblis Zlieri saqarTvelos Semnas, did sivrceze gadaWimuli mravalerovani qveynis unitarul (erTi kanonis ZaliT marTvas), adgilze ki (soflebisa da regioniebis doneze), qarTuli Temisa da xodabunebis principiT TviTmarTvelobas gulisxmobda. (es ebrauli kibucebis is tipiuri modelia, romlis mniSvnelobazec qarTuli soflis aRorZinebisTvis patriarqma araerTxel isaubra). sadac mTis Temis principiT, yvelaferi saukeTeso erTad grovdeba da Semdeg Tanabrad nawildeba mosaxleobaze. saubedurod, bevrma qarTvelma arc ilias “saerTo niadagis Teoriis” da arc satalinis Sesaxeb bevri araferi icis. farisevelTa memkvidreebi, romlebic msoflio mediis, gamomcemlobebisa da saerTaSoriso saionformacio korporaciebis mflobelni arian, “filtrSi” atareben da cxrilaven yvelafers, rac gonierma adamianma ar unda gaiziaros. amisTvis ki gaunaTleblobis danergvaa saWiro. aki, nergaven kidec. adamianebma “sxvisi tviniT, sxvisi WkuiTa da gonebiT” unda iazrovnon. mxolod teelekranidan reklamirebuli wamlebi unda dailon, raTa winaparTa mier gamocdili da dadebiTi Sedegis momcemi saSualebebiT ar ganikurnon. amiT adamianebis ricxvi dedamiwaze unda Semcirdes. dar- proletaruli revolucia” (romelic dResac grZeldeba), male “wyvliTa krulviT (daCipuli sazogadoebiT) daRdasmuli mSieri monebis qveyanisa da msoflios saxes miiRebs”! sadac CipebCadgmuli “msoflio moqalaqeebi moklaven dedas, moklaven mamas _ Tuki partia ubrZanebT amas”! dRevandeli msoflios telemayurebelsa da mkiTxvelis umetesobas ki mxolod is unda miewodos, rac mis mxedvelobaSi, cnobierebasa da mexsierebaSi unda CaibeWdos. es is “sasurveli informaciaa”, rasac farisevelTa memkvidreebi “sabWoeTis” drosac da dResac, mediisa da presis saSualebiT dozirebulad da damaxinjebulad awvdian sazogadoebas. dakvirvebuli adamiani aRmoaCenda, rom plakatebsa Tu suraTebze eSmaki umetesad wiTeli feris, xelSi samkapiT (samkbiliani “kverTxiT”) gamoisaxeba. wiTeli qristes sisxls ganasaxierebs. sami ki uflismieri samebis simboloa. amitomaa “xuTosani wiTeli eSmakunebis” Tavyrilobebsa da SekrebebSi wiTeli feris aseTi siWarbec. wiTeli feri agresiulobiTac gamoirCeva da adamianis cnobiers Trgunavs. wiTeli feri gamoiyeneba saroskipoebsa da “bordelebSic”, sadac sodom-gomoriseuli orgiebi xeliT” gaanadgures serbeTis, saberZneTis, rumineTis, bulgareTis eklesiebi. rigSi saqarTvelosa da ruseTis marTlmadidebluri eklesiebi dgas! WeSmariti Rirebulebebic da Tavisuflebac, mTel msoflioSi swored amisTvis Caanacvles e.w. “demokratiulma da liberalurma Rirebulebebma”. stalinis Temis arapopularobis miuxedavad, masze wiTeli eSmakunebi ewyoba. qalaq ierusalimis droSa, (iudevelTa miwad cnobili adgili, sadac farisevlebma qriste jvars avnes), erTi erTze imeorebs nacionalebis droSas, magram narinjisferia. nacionalebma is alisfrad (sisxlisfrad) Secvales. aRmaSeneblisTvis didgoris brZolisas naCuqari “jvarosnebis droSac” ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~ internetSi www.saertogazeti.com SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-z ze Ces mxolod zombirebuli da marTvadi raodenoba, romlebic farisevelTa mona-mosamsaxured morCilad imuSavebs. mikroCipebiT marTvadi gaxdeba da nebismier dros, rogorc “uvargis teqnikas” saWiroebisamebr “gamorTaven”. Tu kacobrioba gons ar movida, “feradovani revoluciebis” dasawyisi _ “wiTlebis droSebis aRmarTviT im qveynis okupacias niSavda. eSmakeuli (sisixlisferi) droSis saxelmwifo droSad gamocxadeba erTgvari gzavnili iyo “farisevel-masonTa msoflio saZmosadmi”, rom nacionalebi RvTismSoblis wilxvedr saqarTveloSi sisxlis gubeebis dasayeneblad da qristesmieri eris Tavisuflebisken swrafvis sisxlSi CasaxSobad emzadebodnen. RvTismSob- wiTeli iyo, magram ara iseTi sisxlisferi, rogoric dRevaneli saxelmwifo droSaa. maSin is jer kidev Sindisferi iyo. “nacionaluri moZraobis gariJraJzec”, Yyvela Senobasa da dawesebulbaze “jvarosanTa xuTjvriani droSis” aRmarTva da sisxlisfrad misi Secvla hitleris mier svastikiani lis wilxvedri saqarTvelos mimarT am ganzraxvasac farisevelni xan ruseTSi, xanac dasavleTSi Canergili TavianTi agentebis meSveobiT axorcilebdnen. saqarTveloc da yvela qarTvelic, sanam srul simarTles ar gaigebs politikaSi ioseb satalinis wasvlis Sesaxeb, manamde iqneba is zogisTvis tirani, zogisTvis “boroti genia”, zogisTvis kidev iseTi provneba, rogoradac mas masonur-globalisturi samyaro warmoaCens dRemde. yvelaze didi da WeSmarit informaciasac swored farisevelni floben qarTveli iosebis Sesaxeb. maTTvis yvelaze did safrTxes, (irkveva, rom) maSinac da axlac qarTveli warmoadgenda! amis dasamalad amaxinjebdnen istoriul faqtebs aTeisti bolSevikebic da amaxinjeben maTi memkvidre globalisti masonebic viTom qarTveli nacionalebis xeliT. marTlmadideblurma samyarom SesaniSnavad icis simarTle stalinis pirovnebaze. amisTvis gamoucxades marTmadideblur samyaros globalistma-masonebma sastiki omic. “demokratiis sa- simarTlis Tqma aucilebelia! gansakuTrebiT aucilebelia qarTvelebisgan, romlis Rirseul Svilsac ioseb stalini warmoadgenda. ara im vai-qarTvelebisgan, vinc grantebiTa da farisevelTa dafinansebebiT SekveTil statiebsa da publikaciebs aqveyneben. vinc masze srul informacias ar flobs da mxolod “bolSevikuri istoriis saxelmZRvaneloebidan” icis “stalinis kultisa da tiraniis” Sesaxeb. arc im ucxoeli viTom mwerlebisgan, vinc sakuTar istorias ar icnobs wesierad da sxvebis “biografiul cxovrebaze” bestselerebs qmnis. aramed simarTlis dadgena, pirvel rigSi, saqarTvelos da qarTvelebis valia! somxebs stalinis msgavsi fugura rom hyolodaT, mTel msoflios gadasWamdnen tvins. (kidev kargi, jerjerobiT stalinic armenad ar gamoucxadebiaT sxvebis msgavsad) es is bumberazi figuraa, romelic mTel msoflios azanzarebda da Cans dResac azanzarebs, radgan masTan brZolas misi sikvdilidan amdeni xnis Semdegac ar eSvebian. romlis winaSe qeds ixridnen iseTi didi politikosebic ki, rogoric uinston CerCili da ruzvelti iyo. romlis saxelTanac dakavSirebulia dedamiwis meeqvsedis faSizmisgan gaTavisufleba. pirovneba, romelmac wina saukunis dasawyisSi antimarTlmadideblur-globalisturi procesis _ “msoflio proletaruli revoluciis dawyebas” wertili dausva. berebisgan politikaSi gagzavnili adamiani, romelmac peterburgSi CasvlisTanave iq arsebuli 28 masonuri loJa daxura da sastiki brZola gamoucxada “mxecis msaxurT”. im droisTvis 20-iani wlebisTvis stalins, mxolod 9 marTlmadidebel adamianze SeeZlo dayrdnoba, radgan mis irgvliv da politikaSi myofi danarCeni Semadgenloba farisevel-TalmudistTa warmomadgenlebiT iyo dakompleqtebuli. brZolis dasawyebad ki SigniT Canergva da “qajeTis cixis” Signidan dangreva iyo saWiro. am faqtis dasturad cota xnis win mosmenil erT pateriks gavixseneb: “ erT RvTismosav da ucodvel bers Turme eSmaki gadaekida. xan aqedan miudga, xan _ iqedan da verafriT acduna. erT dResac keliaSi misul bers Turme eSmaki sawolze damjdari daxvedria. eSmakma bers uTxra: ” mTxove, rac ginda da Segisruleb. mxolod amis Semdeg daganebeb Tavso”. berma eSmaks misi mxarze Sesma da ierusalimis wminda adgilebis monaxuleba sTxova, razec eSmakma uari ver Tqva.” paterikis morali aseTia: beri borotebas Seajda zed da mas keTili saqme akeTebina! stalinic swored im borotebas ebrZoda, Slida da angrevda Signidan, romeli borotebac dRes gvinadgurebs erovnul identurobas, qarTul suls, marTlmadideblur mrwamss. xelisuflebis qveda eSelonebSi mokalaTebuli mravalricxovani farisevlebi ki Tavisi saqmis keTebas_ inteligenciisa da maTlmadideblebis xocvas agrZelebdnen. revoluciis win peterburgSi leninTan erTad daxuruli vagoniT Casul uzarmazar farisevel masaTan sabrZolvelad ki mtkice xeli, udreki foladiseburi xasiaTi da pirovnulis (xandaxan sakuTaris, qarTulis droebiT gawirvac) ki iyo saWiro, radgan vinc (qaldeveli huri abraamiviT) umTavresis, ideisa da mrwamsis gadasarCenad `sakuTars~ sasworze ar debs, _ is mizans ver aRwevs. nawyveti gamosacemi wignidan `qristes rjulisTvis mebrZoli mxedari~. baia amaSukeli 20 saerTo gazeTi rogorc cnobili gaxda, lopotas xeobaSi Catarebul sisxlian speoperaciasTan dakavSirebiT, CeCnuri mxaris iniciativiT Seiqqmna incidentis Semswavleli komisia, romelsac emigraciaSi myofi CeCneTis yofili kulturis ministri axmed zakaevi uxelmZR Rvanelebs. man saqarTvelos xelisuflebas TanamSromlobas ukve SesTavaza da aR RniSna, rom Tu qarTuli mxare urTierTTanamSromlobaze uars ityvis, maT gaaCniaT sakmarisi resursi, rom daadginon realurad ra moxda. aR RniSnul sakiTxebTan dakavSirebiT `saerTo gazeTs~ saerTaSoriso organizacia `kavkasiel xalxTa konfederaciis~ Tavmjdomare zaal kasreliSvili esaubra. - axmed zakaevma lopotas sisxliani incidentis garSemo gamoZieba daiwyo da saqarTvelos xelisuflebs erToblivi komisiis Seqmnas sTavazobs, magram, vfiqrob, nacxelisufleba masTan ar iTanamSromlebs, anu informacias ar miawvdis, Tu mainc daTanxmda, maSin drois gayvanis taqtikas daadgeba, rom, ase vTqvaT, tkivili gaanelos da daZabuloba gaaneitralos. TviTon zakaevi kavkasiel xalxebSi (rogorc kavkasiaSi, ise mis farglebs gareT) cudi reputaciiT ar sargeblobs, magram mas verc CeCneTis kanonieri xelisuflebis samarTalmemkvidred moiazreben, radgan emigraciaSi masze bevrad ufro avtoritetuli CeCnebi cxovroben. isini CeCneTis saxelisuflebo ierarqiaSi rangiTac da tituliTac ufro maRla idgnen, vidre zakaevi, romelsac kulturis ministris Tanamdeboba ekava. miuxedavad amisa, Cvens organizacias es arCevani Zalze moewona. es saqme CeCnurma mxarem unda gamoiZios, Tu simarTles ityvian xom kargi, Tu ara da Crdilokavkasielebma magaTve mosTxovon pasuxi. Cveni qveynis interesebidan gamomdinare, Zalze kargia, CeCnurma mxarem rom iTava es gamoZieba, Tumca isic unda iTqvas, rom zakaevTan dakavSirebiT bevri eWvi arsebobs. - ras gulisxmobT? - zakaevsa da Cvens xelisuflebas Soris boris berezovski dgas, romelic Cveni xelisuflebis warmomadgenelTa megobaria. telekompania `pikic~ (pirveli kavkasiuri) Tavis droze man daafinansa. axla vis xelSia es telekompania, ar vici, magram misi saqmianoba mxolod berezovskis interesebs SeiZleba emsaxurebodes. kavkasielebis in- #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. teresebs rom ar emsaxureba, amas nebismier dros davamtkiceb Ria eTeriT gamarTul debatebSi. Cveni organizaciis or wevrs _ CeCensa da inguSs, romlebic kavkasiaSi ar cxovroben, daukavSirdnen da am komisiaSi monawileoba SesTavazes. `kavkasiel xalxTa konfederaciis~ iqneba marto Cveni organizaciis iniciativa, kavkasiis yvela eris warmomadgeneli maT sakadris pasuxs gascems. rac Seexeba Tavad zakaevs, mas Zalze mkacrad mosTxoven pasuxs CeCnebi. - Tqven savaraudo damnaSaveebis vinaoba ukve gcodniaT. iqneb is mainc gviTxraT, konkretulad, raSi miuZRviT maT brali? - Cveni saqmianobidan gamomdinare, cxadia, bevr informacias vflobT. rac Seexeba am saqmes, Cveni informaciiT, ori versia ganixileba. pirveli - aw ganadgurebuli jgufis wevrebi, eqvsi Tvis win saqarTveloSi Camoiyvana erovnebiT CeCenma pirovnebam, romelTanac saqarTvelos xelisuflebis mxridan Su- iyo darCenili. is miliarderia, magram arc erT strategiul obieqts ar flobs, am, ase vTqvaT, sazogadoebrivad aqtiur adamians, aranairi gavlena ar aqvs ruseTze. mas ruseTSi gavlenebis mosapoveblad radikaluri opozicioneris imijis mopoveba sWirdeboda, amitomac Cado Tavisi antiputinuri ganwyoba cecxlmokidebul Crdilo kavkasiaSi. berezovskim ifiqra, rom dasavleTSi garkveuli wreebisTvis da Tundac ucxouri specsamsaxurebisTvis am TemiT ufro saintereso gaxdeboda. amitomac daiaxlova axmed zakaevi, romelsac manamde icnobda, anu elcinis mmarTvelobisas, roca berezovski uSiSroebis sabWos mdivani iyo da biz- ness ikeTebda CeCneTis omze. Semdgom amas daemata masa da zakaevs Soris pirovnuli urTierTobebi, romelmac saqarTveloSi gadmoinacvla. saqarTveloSi zakaevis mimarT arsebul- * * * televiziiT gavrcelebul kadrebSi daRupulebis Tanasoflelebi acxadebdnen, rom cxedrebi RamiT, Cumad, yovelgvari ganbanvisa da religiuri ritualis gareSe daasaflaves, ramac profesional (yofil) policielebSi didi eWvi gaaCina, iyvnen ki isini SeiaraRebuli Setakebisas mokluli (am versiam eqspertebSic didi eWvi gamiwvia, 11 meomris brZolis dros ase erTbaSad mokvla gamoricxuliao – m.s.). isini sxva meTodiT, Tundac sawamlaviT xom ar daxoces da mere es specoperacia gaiTamaSeso. xom naxeT cxedrebs eqsperti ki ara, sasuliero pirebic ar miakares, romlebic musulmanuri wesiT apatiosneben cxedars maT eWvi rom ar gasCenodaTo. am versias ma kargma ganwyobam da berezovskis saqarTvelos xelisuflebasTan siaxlovem, raRac etapze berezovskis Seuqmna imiji, rom is kavkasiaSi gavleniani moTamaSea, viTarebas flobs, marTalia, garkveuli segmentisas, magram mainc. garda amisa, berezovskis axlandeli meuRle CeCenia. misma colis Zmebmac, romlebic ukrainasa da evropaSi warmatebuli biznesmenebi arian, Seuqmnes imiji, rom is aris adamiani, romelsac postsabWour sivrceSi, kerZod, kavkasiaSi angariSi unda gavuwioT da vimegobroT, radgan mas iq procesebSi monawileobis miReba SeuZlia. - modiT, lopotas sisxlian specoperacias davubrundeT, romlis garSemoc uamravi kiTxvebi kvlavac arsebobs. xelisuflebam gvamcno 11 mebrZolia moklulio. Svidis vinaoba gvamcnes da musulmanuri wesiT daikrZalebiano. sad aris danarCeni oTxis cxedari, isini saerTod Tu arsebobdnen bunebaSi? - Svidive daRupuli saqarTvelos moqalaqea, aqedan oTxi aq daibada, samma ki 90-ian rom aqvs arsebobis ufleba, zaal kasreliSvilic eTanxmeba. - gavrcelebul versiebze ras gvetyviT, am jgufs erT-eerTi qarTveli parlamentari gasamrjelos fasad TurqeTSi gadayvanas Sepirda da `gadaagdoo~? isic iTqva, rom maT daRestanSi marTlac undodaT gadasvla, iqidan siriaSi rom wasuliyvnen amboxebulebis dasaxmareblad. - rac Seexeba maT TurqeTSi gadasvlas, SeiZleba jgufis romelime wevrma, ubralod, saxlSi Tqva, TurqeTSi mivdivaro. vici, romel parlamentarzecaa saubari. absurdia imis mtkiceba, daRestnidan unda gadasuliyvnen siriaSio. erTaderTi TurqeTidan Tu moxvdeba adamiani siriaSi uproblemod. Tu imis Tqma undaT, rom azerbaijanis gavliT wavidodneno, jer erTi azerbaijani maT ar gaatarebda da meorec, azerbaijanidanac ver moxvdebodnen TurqeTSi ase Cacmulebi da aRWurvilebi. am versiis avtorma, vfiqrob, saerTod ar icis geografia da ruka TvaliT ar aqvs nanaxi. manana suxiSvili zakaevsa da Cvens xelisuflebas Soris berezovski dgas... gamgeoba kolegialuri organoa, erTian gadawyvetilebas vRebulobT, maqsimalurad vcdilobT yvelas interesi da Rirseba daculi iyos, amitomac davTanxmdi, rom maT muSaobaSi monawileoba miiRon, oRond komisiis SemadgenlobaSi ki ar Sevidnen, mxolod am incidentis gamoZiebamde daexmaron, radgan Cven am xalxTan urTierToba manamdec ar gvqonia. vfiqrobT, zakaevi simarTlis damalvas ver gabedavs, 11 adamianis mkvlels xels ver daafarebs, Tu daafarebs, maSin Zalian cudad daamTavrebs. is Seecdeba yvelaferi obieqturad gamoiZios im martivi mizezis gamo, rom Sansi gauCnda aRidginos CeCnebis TvalSi Selaxuli reputacia. mas reputacia maSin Seelaxa, roca doku umarovTan dakavSirebiT evropul medias mZime interviuebi misca, Tanac igi Ria dialogSi Sevida ramzan kadirovTan, maTi Sexvedris Taobaze. marTalia, es Sexvedra ar Sedga da arc dialogi gagrZelda, magram am ori mizezis gamo zakaevis avtoriteti kiTxvis niSnis qveS dadga. Tu zakaevi am incidents obieqturad ar gamoiZiebs, Cven da kidev ramdenime arasamTavrobo organizacias gvaqvs imis meqanizmebi, rom situacia obieqturad vakontroloT. Cven am etapze ar gvinda konkretuli pirebis vinaoba davasaxeloT da maT braldeba wavuyenoT, es zakaevma gaakeTos. Tu misi komisia simarTles ityvis, daveTanxmebiT, Tu simarTles damalaven da saqarTvelos xelisuflebis wisqvilze daasxamen wyals, saqarTvelos mosaxleobas pirobas vaZlev, rom komisiis mTeli Semadgenloba seriozulad daisjeba da es ar amavlobda erTi qarTveli. meore versiis mixedviT, es xalxi didi xania (daaxloebiT ori welia) midi-modian saqarTveloSi, xvdebian xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebs, TanamSromloben, oRond ra Temasa da sakiTxze ver getyviT, Tumca namdvilad TanamSromlobdnen. xsenebul CeCensa da qarTvels, savaraudod, kidev erTi CeCeni da qarTveli ematebian. swored es meore qarTveli yofila, rogorc ityvian, pirveli kvalis gamWreli. is saqarTvelos xelisuflebis saxeliT Cavida evropaSi erT-erT CeCenTan erTad da iq mcxovreb Crdilokavkasielebs partnioroba SesTavaza. maTi vinaoba viciT, magram Segnebulad ar vasaxelebT, sjobs, zakaevma da misma garemocvam daasaxelos, mere rame rom ar dagvabralon. pirvelad Tqveni gazeTis saSualebiT vambob, rom Zalze seriozuli mediasaSualebebis warmomadgenlebma mTxoves, iqneb rekomendacia gagviwioT evropaSi mcxovreb Tqveni organizaciis wevrebTan, rom maTTan CavideT da maTi meSveobiT aviRoT interviu axmed zakaevisgano. erTi martivi mizezis gamo vuTxari uari, Cvens Jurnalistebs iq ruseTis interesi rom daxvdeT, mere Zalian gagviWirdeba imis axsna, rom Cven arafer SuaSi varT. dameTanxmebiT, rom ruseTis politikuri xelmZRvanelobasa da specsamsaxurebs Zalze didi interesi eqnebaT sisxliani incidentisa da zakaevis komisiis mimarT. amitom mets aRarafers vityviT, dae, es Wirisuflebma, CeCnebma gaakeTon. Cven mere davafiqsirebT Cvens pozicias, vin ambobs simarTles da vin _ ara. es aris erTaderTi gamosavali, rom saqarTvelos mimarT eWvi da risxva movxsnaT. - ambobT, zakaevsa da saqarTvelos xelisuflebas Soris boris berezoski dgaso. ra kavSiri aqvs zakaevs masTan? - zakaevs politikuri TavSesafari Tavisi kavSirebis meSveobiT berezovskim gaukeTa. es ukanaskneli, mas Semdeg, rac ruseTidan gaagdes, ufunqciod wlebSi miiRo saqarTvelos moqalaqeoba. am Svidi adamianidan erTi avstriidan Camoiyvanes, meore londonidan, mesame ki fineTidan. Tu risTvis Camoiyvanes, yvelam kargad vnaxeT. sad aris danarCeni oTxi cxedari, ver getyviT. saerTod, tyuili am xelisuflebis cxovrebis wesi da urTierTobis formaa. rogorc Cans, es oTxi marTlac ar arsebobs, Torem imas mainc ityodnen, identifikacia mimdinareobso. amaT samxedro specoperaciis imxela speqtakli dadges, rom vfiqrob, mere SercxvaT imis aRiareba, Svid kacs rom ebrZodnen. saerTo gazeTi 21 #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. msoflio presis mixedviT bolo wlebis saqarTveloSi lamis normad iqca regularulad laparaki imis Sesaxeb, rom ruseTis armia saqarTveloSi SemoWras gegmavs _ TiTqosda `im saqmis bolomde misayvanad, rac 2008 wlis agvistoSi ver moxerxda~: anu Secvalos ara marto arsebuli xelisufleba, aramed sagareopolitikuri da saSinao politikac ki. aseTi sifrTxile agvistos agresiis Semdeg gasagebia, rasac emateba qarTvelTa Tandayolili miswrafeba, SeTxzas versiebi da yvelgan SeTqmulebebi eZebos. qarTvelebi Rrmad arian darwmunebuli, rom maTi damoukideblobisa da erTgvari usafrTxoebis mTavar garants warmoadgens amerikis SeerTebuli Statebi, romelic saqarTvelos dauTmobs ruseTs rame ufro didi _ erayis, avRaneTis, CrdiloeT koreis, libiis, axla ki ukve siriisa da iranis sanacvlod. maT uWirT gageba imisa, rom zesaxelmwifoebi iSviaTad vaWroben TavianTi mokavSireebiT _ maT mxolod is SeuZliaT, daTmon gavlena im qveynebSi, romlebic TanamSromlobis aSkara survils ar gamoxataven. es iSviaTad, magram mainc xdeba. Tu didi saxelmwifo xelTaTmaniviT icvlis partnior qveynebs, is am tituls didxans ver SeinarCunebs. gamovTqvaT imedi imisa, rom saqarTvelo didi qveynebis TamaSebSi sajildao qva ar gaxdeba. Tumca arc is aris gamoricxuli, ruseTma kidev scados saqarTveloSi SeWra, iseve rogorc veravin gamoricxavda 2008 wlis agvistos omis dawyebas. saqarTvelo yuradRebiT adevnebs Tvals kavkasia-2012is swavlebebs, romelic saqarTveloSi 1-li oqtombris saparlamento arCevnebs emTxveva da amitomac Cndeba ruseTis xelaxali agresiis SiSic. saRi azri agresiis winaaRmdeg ruseTi saerTaSoriso wesebis imitacias axdens. vidre sababi ar eqneba, saqarTvelosken ar gaixedavs ra xdeba sinamdvileSi? zogierT qarTvel eqsperts mcdari warmodgena aqvs ruseTis xelisuflebaze _ maTi azriT, axlandeli ruseTi Tavneba saxelmwifoa, romelsac ar gaaCnia aranairi wesebi da valdebulebebi vinmes winaSe. ruseTi marTlac cdilobs, sagareo politikaSi iTamaSos _ Taviseburad interpretirebuli, damaxinjebuli, mcdarad interpretirebuli, magram mainc saerTaSoriso wesebiT. raSi vlindeba es? upirvelesad imaSi, rom moskovi iseTs arafers akeTebs, rasac paralels ver mouZebni dasavleTSi. magaliTad _ ratom gaaWianura omi 2008 wlis agvistomde, ratom ar SeiWra saqarTveloSi maSinve da angariSi ar gauwia aravis, ratom cdilobda sababis moZebnas, dros kargavda qarTuli soflebis dabombvaze, Tuki putini da medvedevi saerTaSoriso donis Tavneba politikosebi arian? rogorc ukve aRvniSneT, ruseTi cdilobs mibaZos dasavleTs. Tqven aRiareT kosovo _ Cven vaRiarebT afxazeTsa da samxreT oseTs, Tqven CaatareT operacia serbiaSi iZulebiTi mSvidobis dasamyareblad _ Cven mSvidobis iZulebas afxazeTsa da samxreT oseTSi vcdilobT... dasavleTs kosovo rom ar eRiarebina, ruseTi araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar gaakeTebda imaves afxazeTisa da samxreT oseTis mimarT, Tundac saakaSvils putini liliputinad asjer moexseniebina pirdapir eTerSi. agvistos dasawyisSi provokaciebi swored imas emsaxureboda, rom saqarTvelos sapasuxo cecxli gaexsna da swored is TamaSi gaeCaRebina, rac nato-m serbiaSi gaiTamaSa. amitomac gulubryvilod Cans liberal eqspertTa mosazreba, TiTqos SeiZleboda am omis Tavidan acileba _ amisT- vis sakmariso iqneboda dabombvaze ar epasuxaT. omi gardauvali iyo _ ara imitom, rom putini ganawyenebulia saakaSvilze, aramed imitom, rom dasavleTTan angariSebi gasasworebeli iyo, Tanac _ Zalian swrafad. amas ruseTi ver gaeqceoda. axla teritoriul sakiTxebSi angariSi sayaimoa _ 1:1. amitomac ar sWirdeba ruseTs axali provokaciebi afxazeTis an samxreT oseTis teritoriaze. axla iq iseTi siCumea, rac bolo wlebis ganmavlobaSi arasodes yofila. Tumca arsebobs sxva TamaSic, sadac angariSia 1:0. es libiaa. ai, aq ki ruseTs namdvilad gauCnda SesaZlebloba, gamoiyenos Tavisi fantazia da SemoqmedebiTi energia. saamisod ki viTareba libiis msgavsad unda ganviTardes _ anu saqarTvelos mTavrobam gaanadguros opozicia, cecxli gauxsnas mSvidobian moqalaqeebs... aseT dros mamaci 58-e armia saqarTvelos mosaxleobis dasaxmareblad gaemarTeba da angariSi gaxdeba 1:1. oqtombris dasawyisSi saqarTvelos mZime da rTuli arCevnebi elis _ ueWvelia, ruseTis armia yuradRebiT Tvals miadevnebs im movlenebs, rac xmis micemas mohyveba. operacia kavkasia-2012-s masTan uSualo kavSiri ara aqvs. saqme sxvagvarad aris _ Tu miecema sababi, ruseTi mas gamoi- yenebs: kavkasia-2012-s an daukavSirebs, an ara. ruseTi saerTaSoriso wesebis imitacias axdens. vidre sababi ar eqneba, saqarTvelosken ar gaixedavs. sasxletze TiTis gamokvris roli SeiZleba Seasrulos nacionalebsa da biZinistebs Soris gamarTulma namdvilma omma. yvelaferi mainc xelisuflebis xelSia _ man unda Caataros normaluri arCevnebi da metismeti xmebi ar miiweros, zomiereba daicvan da sixarbe ar gamoiCinon. oriode sityva `ruseTsa da somxeTs Soris derefnis~ Teoriaze, Tuki dasavleTi irans oms gamoucxadebs. es varianti ruseTs saqarTveloSi SeWris saSualebas miscems da mas damatebiTi sababi ar dasWirdeba. Teoriulad es SesaZlebelia _ Tu dasavleTi iranSi SeiWreba, ruseTi, sapasuxod, saqarTvelos Seutevs da angariSi kvlav 1:1 gaxdeba. realurad, irans ukve aTi welia emuqrebian da bolos da bolos, unda gavacnobieroT _ dasavleTSi veravin gabedavs 80-milionian iranSi SeWras. maqsimumi, rac SeiZleba moxdes, es aris aviadartymebi birTvul obieqtebze, Tumca esec nakleb savaraudoa. qarTvel sazogadoebas gaaCnia yvelanairi Sansi, Tavidan aicilos dapirispireba ruseTTan. amitomac qarTvelebma unda gamoiCinon odnavi goniereba mainc. inosmi.ru/sngbaltia vis sWirdeba axali konfliqti vainax Zmebs Soris ruseTis saokupacio jarebis afxazeTidan da cxinvalis regionidan gamoyvana, TavianT saxlebSi devnilTa swrafad dabruneba mniSvnelovanwilad damokidebulia imaze, Tu rogori damokidebuleba aqvs ruseTs CrdiloeT kavkasiis mimarT _ sadac, bolos da bolos, unda damyardes stabiluroba, samarTlianoba da mSvidoba. amitomac saqarTveloSi yovelTvis interesiT akvirdebian mezobel regionSi mimdinare procesebs, magram iq arsebuli mdgomareoba jerjerobiT damSvidebis sababs ar iZleva. metic _ garkveuli Zalebi CrdiloeT kavkasiaSi imdenad Zabaven viTarebas, rom SesaZloa, igi nebismier dros farTomasStabian omSi gadaizardos. amis fonze gakvirvebas da SeSfoTebas iwvevs teritoriuli dava ori vainaxuri respublikis _ inguSeTisa da CeCneTis meTaurebs Soris, rasac provokaciis elferi dahkravs. am dReebSi groznom pretenziebi gamoTqva mezobel respublikaSi malgobekis raionis nawilsa da mTlianad sunJenis raionze _ es teritoriebi istoriulad CeCneTis sakuTreba iyo (1992 wlamde, vidre CeCneT-inguSeTi or respublikad gaiyofoda) da isini kanonier mflobelebs unda daubrundes. mxolod amis Semdeg unda gaivlos respublikebs Soris sademarkacio sazRvario. Tu CeCneT-inguSeTis sazRvris sadavo sakiTxi adgilze ver mogvardeba, CeCneTis xelisufleba federaluri centris CarTvas gegmavs. CeCnebma pretenziebis Sesaxeb gancxadeba gaakeTes da saqmis praqtikul ganxorcielebasac mohkides xeli _ inguSeTTan sazRvris dasadgenad Seqmnes samTavrobo komisia, romelSic parlamentis wevrebisa da ministrebis garda cnobili istorikosebi da sazogado moRvaweebic arian. am komisiis pirveli sxdoma ukve gaimarTa seqtembris dasawyisSi. CeCneTis xelmZRvanelobas, romelmac dudaevis `damnaSave reJimis~ xelmowerili dokumentebis gauqmeba ganizraxa, mezobeli Zmuri respublikis daSinebas sayveduroben _ adre problemebs uxucesebi da religiuri liderebi uxmaurod agvarebdnen, axla ki moskovis mxardaWeriT arian gulmocemulni. inguSeTSi CeCneTis xelisuflebis gamomwvev qcevas provokaciad afaseben. Tanaxmani arian, monawileoba miiRon sazRvris dadgenaSi, magram kategoriulad ewinaaRmdegebian mis Secvlas _ amas seriozuli konfliqti mohyvebao. axla, roca mTlianad CrdiloeT kavkasiaSi, gansakuTrebiT ki mezobel daRestanSi eTnikuri da religiuri mZafri brZolebia gaCaRebuli; roca inguSeTs uamravi ltolvili hyavs da mezobel osebTan mougvarebeli teritoriuli problemebi aqvs, groznos wamowyebuli teritoriuli kamaTi kavkasiologebs inguSebisTvis zurgSi maxvilis Cacemad miaCniaT. ar aris gamoricxuli, moskovisgan frTaSesxmul kadirovs mada gaezardos, isargeblos daRestanSi Seqmnili mdgomareobiT da pretenzia ganacxados groznos sazRvrispira hasaviurtis raionzec, romelic 1921 wlamde CeCneTs ekuTvnoda. kavkasiis sakiTxTa eqspertebi acnobiereben, rom dapirispirebis axali keris Seqmna mtris wisqvilze wylis dasxmis tolfasi iqneba da regionSi stabilurobisa da mSvidobis damyareba kidev ufro gadavaddeba. mimoxilva moamzada g.WavWavaZem. 22 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. Zvaluka, anu fexis didi TiTebis deformacia erT-erTi yvelaze gavrcelebuli orTopediuli problemaa, romelic umTavresad mSvenieri sqesis warmomadgenlebs awuxebT. mamakacebSi didi TiTebis deformacia metad iSviaTad viTardeba da umeteswilad terfis mikrotravmebiTaa gamowveuli. qalebSi mas ramdenime mizezi aqvs. maT Soris mTavaria terfis didi TiTebis myesTa Tandayolili defeqti, romelic qalbatonebs memkvidreobiT gadaecemaT dedisgan. Zvalukas medicinaSi hilus vagusi ewodeba. igi banaluri brtyelterfianobiT iwyeba. mogexsenebaT, adamianis terfi kunTebis, Zvlebis, myesebisa da iogebisgan Sedgeba. rodesac adamians brtyelterfianobis gamo ganivi TaRis defeqti uviTardeba, misi didi TiTis falangis gverdiT erTmaneTis paralelurad mdebare falangebi da maTTan erTad TiTebic maraos msgavsad iwyebs gaSlas. es moZraoba arc ise negatiuri iqneboda, danarCen TiTebs cerac rom ayoloda, magram igi am dros sxvebis msgavsad maraoseburad ki ar iSleba, piriqiT ter- `girCebi~ terfze fis SigniT ixreba; Sedegad _ saxsari formas icvlis, didi TiTis falangi nawilobriv gamodis saxsridan da sagrZnoblad idrikeba, es ki iseTi Sesaxedia, TiTqos cera TiTis fuZesTan patara girCi gamoizarda an axali patara Zvali ganviTarda, swored amitom miiRo terfis aseTma deformaciam xalxSi girCis saxelwodeba. terfi CaquCs daemsgavsa terfs da gansakuTrebiT ki mis cera TiTs mudmivi kontaqti aqvs fexsacmelTan, ris gamoc is gamudmebiT iWyliteba da travmirdeba, ziandeba misi kani, iyvlifeba da deformirebuli adgili kudev ufro metad ziandeba. bolos ki yalibdeba saxsris anTeba da dasawyisSi `girCis~ adgilas ukve Zvlovan-xrtilovani wanazardi warmoiqmneba. droTa ganmavlobaSi deformirebuli didi TiTi zians ayenebs mezobel TiTebsac: isini iZulebuli xdebian moixaron da arabunebrivi mimarTulebiT imoZraon, ris Sedegadac terfi CaquCis formas Rebulobs. rogor moviqceT Zvalukas mkurnalobis mxolod erTi _ qirurgiuli meTodi arsebobs. erTxans pirdapir xrtilovan wanazards an didi TiTis Zvals kveTdnen. dRes damokidebuleba radikalurad Seicvala _ Zvaluka aRiqmeba ara mxolod didi TiTis (rogorc adre miaCndaT), aramed mTeli terfis daavadebad, amitom mkurnalobac kompleqsuria da terfis yvela saxsrisa da myesis koreqcias gulisxmobs. operaciamde rekomendebulia kompresebi, iodis badeebi, masaJi, samkurnalo mcenareTa naxarSis Tbili abazanebi, magram gaxsovdeT, rom es mxolod droebiTi saSualebania, romlebic aseve droebiT Sedegs iZleva. maTi daxmarebiT mcirdeba terfSi anTebiTi procesi da misi Tanmdevi tkivilic klebulobs, magram problema bolomde mougvarebeli rCeba _ deformirebuli terfis safuZvliani mkurnaloba mxolod da mxolod qirurgiuli wesiTaa SesaZlebeli. enterobiozi _ organizmSi maxvila parazitobs axali saswavlo wlis dawyebis kvaldakval, pedikulozTan (datilianeba) erTad, gansakuTrebul aqtualobas iZens paraziti WiebiT gamowveuli daavadebebi. ra daavadebaa enterobiozi? rogor moviqce, rom Svili ar damiavaddes? Tu mainc dainficirda, tradiciuli preparatebiT vumkurnalo Tu aratradiciul saSualebebs vendo? _ es is kiTxvebia, romlebze pasuxic bevri mSoblisTvis aris saintereso. enterobiozi yvelaze gavrcelebuli helminTozia (parazituli WiiT gamowveuli daavadeba), mas wvrili, patara, TeTri feris maxvilboloebiani Wia _ enterobiusi iwvevs, romelic nawlavSi moxvedris Semdeg kvercxs debs da mravldeba. parazitis kvercxi sakmaod mdgradi da gamZlea garemos araxelsayreli faqtorebisa Tu madezinficirebeli saSualebebis mimarT. garemoSi paraziti 25 dRe cocxlobs, kanalizaciis milebSi ki 7-dan 21 dRemde inarCunebs gamravlebis unars. vin SeiZleba daavaddes enterobioziT? daavadebisgan saimedo da gansakuTrebuli dacvis saSualeba ar arsebobs _ SesaZloa, daavaddes nebismieri adamiani, nebismier asakSi, Tumca daavadebulTa umravlesoba 3-idan 10-14-wlamde asakis bavSvebi arian, yvelaze metad ki es daavadeba 4-6 wlis bavSvebSi aRiniSneba. gansakuTrebiT avadoben: 1. bavSvebi, romelTa dedebsac orsulobis meore trimestrSi toqsikozi aReniSnebodaT; 2. xelovnuri sakvebiT gamozrdilebi; 3. xangrZlivad da xSirad moavadeni; 4. patarebi dabali socialuri statusis mqone ojaxebidan; 5. im sabavSvo baRebisa Tu skolebis aRsazrdelebi, romelTa Senobebic ar akmayofilebs dadgenil normativebs. daavadebis wyaro mxolod adamiania, amitom mcdaria mosazreba, rom enterobioziT bavSvi SesaZloa Sinaurma cxovelma daainficiros. rodis unda gamovikvlioT bavSvi daavadebis ZiriTadi simp tomebia: muclis tkivili, xSiri gulisreva da Rebineba, kuWnawlavis traqtis anTebiTi daavadebebi, advilad gadaRla, gaRizianebadoba, mSfoTvare Zili, ZilSi kbilebis kraWuni, alergiuli reaqciebi: gamonayari da perianaluri (ukana tanis) qavili, gogonebSi xSiria vulvovaginiti _ saSos lorwovani garsis anTeba, Sardgamomyofi sistemis infeqciebi. am niSnebis didi nawili sxva saxis helminTozebsac axasiaTebs, magram enterobiozisTvis gansakuTrebiT ori ram aris damaxasiaTebeli _ perianaluri qavili da muclis tkivili. perianaluri qavili xSirad daavadebis erTaderTi simptomic kia, rac mdedri parazitis ukana tanis naoWebSi gamosvliTa da iq kvercxis debiTaa gamowveuli. qavili yvelaze metad RamiT, 11 saaTidan 1-l saaTamde Zlierdeba. swored am periodSi eZlevaT parazitebs maqsimaluri Sansi usafrTxod kvercxdebi- sa, romlebic dilisaTvis ukve aswreben momwifebas. mSoblebi xSirad aRniSnaven, rom mkurnalobis miuxedavad, maTi patara RamiT ukanatans mainc iqavebs. es nu SegaSinebT, namkurnalev bavSvebSi qavili refleqsuri xasiaTisaa, romelic garkveuli periodis Semdeg TavisiT gaivlis. RamiT dadebuli kvercxidan dilisaTvis ukve axali parazitebi iCekebian, romle- Tad, SesaZloa, Wamis Semdegac gaZlierdes. bic xSirad ganavalTan erTad gamoiyofa. parazitebis gamoyofa gansakuTrebiT Zlierdeba sxeulis temperaturis matebisas, didi raodenobiT citrusis wvenis an mineraluri wylis dalevisas. muclis tkivili _ aseve xSiri simptomia mwvave tkivili, romelic lokalizebulia Wipis areSi; nawlavis kedelze parazitebis miwebebis Sedegad lorwovani garsi Riziandeba da tkivili, wesisamebr, Wamisas iwyeba, Tumca, iSvia- rebis Catarebamde aucilebelia nebismieri saxis helminTozis mkurnaloba. 3. zrda-ganviTarebis tempebis Seneleba _ qronikulad moavade bavSvebis sisxlSi mkveTrad klebulobs spilenZis, TuTiisa da magniumis raodenoba, am mikroelementTa deficiti ki, rogorc fizikuri ise gonebrivi ganviTarebis Semaferxebeli faqtoria; 4. garTuleba _ daavadeba SesaZloa garTuldes Wianawlavis danamatis anTebiT (apen- daavadebis negatiuri Sedegebi 1. imunitetis daTrgunva _ helminTebi aqveiTebs sisxlSi damcavi nivTierebebis dones da nerwyvis fermentebis aqtivobas; 2. enterobioziT daavadebul bavSvebSi sagrZnoblad mcirdeba profilaqtikuri acrebis efeqtianoba, amitom ac- diciti), ukana tanis napraliT da zogjer enureziT _ RamiT Sardis SeukavlobT. rogor aviciloT enterobiozi * upirveles yovlisa, patara unda miaCvioT piradi higienis wesebs, gadaaCvieT TiTebisa da saTamaSoebis pirSi Cadebas, xSirad unda ibanos xeli sapniT, enterobiozi xom `WuWyiani xelebis daavadebaa~; * pataras frCxilebi yovelTvis ZirSi unda daaWraT; * aucilebelia yovel dila-saRamos maTi wels qvemoT dabanva; * Tu bavSvi dainficirebulia, RamiT iseTi sacvali unda CaacvaT, rom ZilSi ukana tanis qavili ver SeZlos; sacvali yoveli garecxvis Semdeg unda gauTovdes cxeli uToTi. mkurnalobis periodSi aucilebelia TeTreulis xSiri gamocvla, gamoxarSva da gauToeba. * saxli, gansakuTrebiT sabavSvo oTaxi da iataki, unda dasufTavdes sveli wesiT, specialuri xsnarebiT, romlebic sagnebs moacilebs kvercxebs da gaanadgurebs kidec. * kvercxebze damRupvelad moqmedebs ramdenime saaTiT yinva an kaSkaSa mzis pirdapiri sxivebi; * aucilebelia bavSvis racionSi Sediodes: stafilo, marwyvi, broweulis wveni, kakali, krazanas Cai, romlebic organizmidan parazitis gamodevnas uwyobs xels; * bavSvs aucileblad unda hqondes calke sawoli da pirsaxoci. sabednierod, enterobiozi arc ise saSiSi daavadebaa da Tanamedrove medicinis pirobebSi absoluturad ikurneba. zviad RonRaZe #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. Cemi inkognito respondenti axalgazrda, simpaTiuri kacia. qristes asaki jer ar Semsrulebiao, _ ganmicxada da isic daamata, rom JurnalistebTan saqme arasdros hqonia, `Tqven popularuli adamianebi gainteresebT, me ki bevri miklia aqamde, Tumca Cems axloblebSi popularulic var da metic. axla imitom dagTanxmdiT, rom Cemi vinaoba ar iSifreba, Tanac am Temaze usasrulod SemiZlia saubari, ramdens dabeWdavT, es ukve Tqveni saqmea~ _ miTxra `debiutantma~. saubari marTlac xangrZlivi gamogvivida. ai, ra miambo zazam (saxeli Secvlilia): `usiyvarulod Seqmnili ojaxi ojaxad ar mimaCnia, magram moyvaruli col-qmaric rom xSirad ver eteva culis tarze, esec faqtia. cocxali magaliTi agera var: asi welic rom vicocxlo, mainc ver mivxvdebi, ra bzikma ukbina Cems cols. arada, TiTqos, kargad vicnobdiT erTmaneTs. orwliani romani gvqonda. Tu misi mxridan naRdi siyvaruli ar iyo da Tavs maCvenebda, maSin udidesi msaxiobi yofila da aq raRa unda _ gaemgzavros holivudSi, arc dafaseba moakldeba da arc _ milionebi. Tqven warmogidgeniaT, uerTmaneTod erT saaTsac ver vZlebdiT, xan me vijeqi mis leqciebze da xan piriqiT, uamravi winaaRmdegoba Segvxvda da mainc erTad viyaviT _ nuTu es siyvaruli ar iyo? winaaRmdegobebi vaxsene, axlave davakonkreteb: xom iciT, dRes iseTi cxovrebaa, rom kaci SeiZleba daberde da materialuri problemebi mainc ver moagvaro, Cven ki studentebi viyaviT, arc mis ojaxs gadasdioda Tavze da arc Cemsas, binis yidvas an daqiravebas ki fuli sWirdeboda. saidan unda mometana? kafeSi Tu davpatiJebdi, Tavi kaci megona. vatyob, gagikvirdaT, bina rom vaxsene, albaT, ggoniaT, rom calke cxovrebaze viyaviT Caciklulni. rasakvirvelia, axalgazrda wyvils yovelTvis calke cxovreba urCevnia, magram Cven, ubralod, sxva arCevani ar gvqonda, gamigeT? orive ojaxma wiTeli agvinTo _ Cemebs misi saxelis gagonebac ar undodaT, _ bavSvians ar mogayvaninebTo, _ gamomicxades da bolomde `pirvel Cvenebas awvebodnen~. ra ar vcade: Txovna, mudara, Segoneba, Cxubi _ araferma gaWra. me eg ambavi sul ar maRelvebda: 17 wlis gogos ra Wkua, moekiTxeba, hoda, garegnobiT moixibla, mere ki erTjeradi Spricebis gadayras ver audioda, ori weli gauZlo am jojoxeTs, bolos ki bavSvs xeli daavlo da saxlSi dabrunda. ra, Tavi unda gaewira? misi yofili qmari dResac Campali narkomania, Tumca Zveleburad frTebgaSlili da gala- saerTo gazeTi 23 `se la vi~ Rebuli veRar aris. rogorc gavige, viTom mkurnalobs kidec, magram, ra vici, ginaxavT gamosworebuli narkomani? mokled, mere me gamicno, tolebi viyaviT, bevri saerTo aRmogvaCnda da erTmaneTi Segviyvarda. me aranairad ar makompleqsebda misi ganaTxovroba, magram Cemebs veraferi Sevagnebine. axla, rac Seexeba mis ojaxs: es vis gadaekideo, bavSvis patroni xar da vinme gza- ukan araferze damixevia. me mgoni, yvelaze bednieri swored iq viyavi, sxvis WurqveS. jer biZaCemi mixdida qiras, mere _ Cemi megobari. amasobaSi institutic davamTavre. mamam samsaxuri damawyebina da miTxra, _ imitom gexmarebi, rom puris fuli gqondes; namdvil karierasa da normalur cxovrebaze ki mag gogos rom miatoveb da Sin dabrundebi, mere iocnebeo. ori weli gavida da yidvaSi dagexmarebiTo. gulSi ras fiqrobdnen, ar vici, da verc gavigeb, radgan saerTo Svili ar gvyolia. gana ar viyolieT, eg ar ifiqroT! bavSvze vocnebobdiT, eqimsac mivmarTeT da aRmoCnda, rom oriveni janmrTeli viyaviT _ amasobaSi ki ise airia monasteri, rom... ai, magaliTad, nards rom Wadraki merCios, an Saqriani yava, ufro miyvardes, vidre uSaqro, gaRiziandebiT? ara, ïèë, íå êóðèë è öâåòè âñåòäà äàðèë~ rom icodeT, zustad Cemzea. tyuilad geRimebaT, arafers vazviadeb. erTma Wkvianma kacma Tqva, _ qali CrdiliviTaa, roca misdev _ garbis, roca gaurbixar _ Tavad gamogekidebao. xom magari sityvebia? hoda, me es sibrZne verafriT davnerge praqtikaSi, verasodes vaeWviane, verafriT davaintrige, zedmetad miyvarda da imitom. araferi gansakuTre- `murmanis ekali~ buli qali araa _ ki, sasiamovno garegnoba aqvs, magram gasagiJebeli namdvilad ar aris. garegnoba arafer SuaSia, ubralod, miyvarda da morCa! sakmaod didi dro gavida, rac erTad aRar varT, masze ukeTesTanac gamivlia, magram vgrZnob, rom Tavs vityueb, imis damviwyebeli ara var... Tu gulaxdilobaa, bolomde gulaxdiloba iyos: mag qalis gamo yvelaferze var wamsvleli, ar menaRvleba, Tu vinmes TvalSi sasacilo gamovCndebi _ SeiZleba kaci movkla da xeli ar amikankaldes. ho, marTla asea _ SeiZleba movkla Cemi Seuracxmyofelis Seuracxmyofeli...~ ze damdgari mogeZebnao, Seni toli biWi jer TviTonaa gasazrdeli da ver gipatronebso... erTi sityviT, yvela Tavisas mierekeboda: Cems mSoblebs ganaTxovari rZali ar nebavdaT, imaT ki _ studenti siZe. Cven ra gvindoda, amas aravin kiTxulobda. iciT, rodis amomasxa? erT dResac dedaCemi meca da meubneba, _ dRes naTelmxilvelTan viyavi da mosacdel oTaxSi Seni qalbatonis dedas gadavawydio. sanam azrze movidodi, `Cemma qalbatonmac~ damireka da Semomtira, _ dedaCemma lamis suli amomxados, Seni kavaleris dedas naTelmxilvelTan ra undodao. azrze xarT? albaT Cveni suraTebi hqondaT waRebuli da orive maTgani darwmunebuli iyo, rom misi Svili jados Tu raRac jandabis msxverpli gaxda. ai, Tqven gecinebaT, me ki maSin ise gavmwardi, rom saxlSi lamis yvelaferi davlewe _ naTelmxilveli da mkiTxavi ukve nametani iyo. im dResve naqiraveb binaSi gadavediT. vicodi, vuyvardi da ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~ internetSi www.saertogazeti.com SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-z ze yvela mixvda, rom colis mimtovebeli ar viyavi. amaSi sabolood maSin darwmundnen, xeli rom movawereT. mere misma ojaxma SemogvTavaza, _ CvenTan gadmodiTo da gadavbargdiT _ binis qiris gadaxdisgan suli gvqonda amoxdili da es problema mainc movixseniT. Cemebs araferi gauprotestebiaT: TiTqos, asec unda yofiliyo: me unda mecxovra colis ojaxSi da ara piriqiT. miTxres, _ Svili rom SegeZinebaT, binis xom? agaSenaT RmerTma. Cems cols ki Zalian aRizianebda, Tumca imas ra aRar aRizianebda! cxadia, yavasa da Wadraks ar vgulisxmob _ saerTod aRaraferi moswonda Cemi, Cemi sityvac nervebs uSlida da saqmec. erTxelac pirdapir gamomicxada, _ erTad veRar viqnebiT, daviRaleo. umizezod araferi xdeba, magram usindiso viyo, Tu misi aseTi qcevis mizezi vicode. erTi rusuli simReraa: `×òîá íå axmed umarovi, SesaZloa, TbilisSi axmet Citaevis saqmeze molaparakebebs marTavdes eqsperti kavkasiis sakiTxebSi mamuka areSiZe ar gamoricxavs, rom doku umarovis Zma, axmed umarovi, SesaZloa, saqarTveloSi axmet Citaevis saqmeze imyofebodes. „medianiusTan“ saubrisas igi „exo kavkazas“ mier gavrcelebul informacias gamoexmaura, romlis mixedviTac, axmed umarovi TbilisSia. rogorc areSiZem aRniSna, mas zusti informacia ar moepoveba, Tumca im saubarze dayrdnobiT, romelic umarovsa da „exo kavkazis“korespondents Soris Sedga, SesaZloa, es ukanaskneli marTlac saqarTvelos dedaqalaqSi iyos Camosuli. „Tu axmed umarovi TbilisSia, SesaZloa, is axmed Citaevis saqmesTan dakavSirebiT iyos aq da molaparakebebs marTavdes. axmed Citaevi seriozuli figura da axmed umarovis piradi megobaria“, –– ganmarta mamuka areSiZem. rogorc cnobilia, axmed Citaevi ruseTis fe- P.S. vici, rom alqajia, magram mainc qveyanas mirCevniao, _ miTxra Cemma repondentma. Znelia, ivaraudo, rogor warimarTeba movlenebi. faqtia, rom umizezod araferi xdeba, Tumca adamianis gulSi Caxedva da WeSmariti mizezis moZieba sulac ar gaxlavT ioli saqme. mkiTxvelo, iqneb Tavad gansazRvro, ram gamoiwvia siyvaruliT Seqmnili ojaxis dangreva: droebiTma materialurma gaWirvebam, qmris monotonurma xasiaTma (rogorc Tavad aRniSna), qalis pretenziebma Tu misma cvalebadma bunebam _ `murmanis ekali~ xom mravalgvaria... nino sixaruliZe deraciis moqalaqea CrdiloeT kavkasiidan. is SeiaraRebuli dajgufebis erT-eerTi wevria, romelic Sinagan saqmeTa saministros TanamSromlebma lopotas xeobaSi daakaves. Sinagan saqmeTa saministros informaciT, igi dakavebisas daWrili iyo da Sesabamisi samedicino daxmareba gaewia. aRsaniSnavia, rom axmed umarovi interpolis mier ar iZebneba. interpoli wiTeli cirkulariT doku umarovs eZebs. Crdilo oseTis teritoriaze amboxebulebis dajgufeba aRmoaCines CrdiloeT oseTis ganapira teritoriaze amboxebulebis dajgufeba aRmoaCines. ,,ria novostis” informaciiT, dajgufebis aRmoCenis gamo Crdilo oseTis gareubanSi kontrteroristuli operaciis reJimia SemoRebuli. samarTaldamcavebis gancxadebiT, maTTan operatiul StabSi Sevida informacia, rom Crdilo oseTisa da inguSeTis administraciul sazRvarze, tyis masivSi bandformireba aRmoCnda, romelic teroristul saqmianobaSi aris SemCneuli. im teritoriaze, sadac operacia mimdinareobs, fizikuri pirebis gadaadgilebasTan dakavSirebiT SezRudvebia SemoRebuli. arsebuli informaciiT, bandformireba daaxloebiT 10 adamianisgan Sedgeba. `medianiusi~ 24 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. mogzauroba samSobloSi xandoSi yofnisas WobareTiswylis gaRma, Sors erTi patara dasaxleba SevniSneT. eg qar Tuli sofeli Toki ariso, agvixsnes xandoelebma. xandodan TokSi, Rrma xevis gamo, gza pirdapir ar gadadis. iq an varevnidan unda moxvde an javaxeTis mtkvris (igive faravnis wylis) kanionidan amavali gziT. Cven am ukanas knels virCevT. aspinZa-aaxalqalaqis trasaze damdgarni xerTvisis gadasaxvevidan me-88 kilo metrze gzidan xelmarcxniv vuxvevT da serpantiniT kvlav tye-j javaxeTSi avdivarT. Toki zRvis donidan 1640 metris simaRleze, kanionis Tavzea, Sua gzaze ki erTi Zalian saintereso Zeglia, sadamdec qveiTad, daaxloebiT, naxevari kilometria sasiarulo wavarnebiT. es teritoria sofel Toks ekuTvnis da eklesias, samecniero literaturaSi, amitom hqvia Tokis monasteri. adgilobrivi qarTvelebi, erTi legendis Tanaxmad, mas daZmis monasters uwodeben (am legendas sxva dros, sofel CunCxaSi yofnisas giambobT). da-Zmis monasterSi, am saydris garda, kanionis meore mxares, missave simaRleze mdebare naisis eklesia moiazreba. eklesiebi erTmaneTs uyureben da TvalsawieriT 250-300 metri aSorebT. Tokis terasaze mdgari saydari, romelTanac, axla mivdivarT, sinamdvileSi or eklesias aerTianebs. samxreTiT, dabla, mcire nagebobaa (Sida zomebia 3,10X1,90 m), igi zogan uxeSad damuSavebuli, magram Tanabari zomis mcire qviTaa amoyvanili, zogan sufTad gaTlili veeba kvadrebiT. qvaTa Tlis, SerCevisa da wyobis aseTi Sexameba adreSuasaukuneebisTvis aris damaxasiaTebeli. salocavi dasavleTidan naxevarwriuli TaRiTaa gaxsnili. es nagebobis erTaderTi Sesasvlelia. yuradRebas ipyrobs sakurTxevlis absidis Semkvreli erTob monumenturi, nalisebri moyvanilobis TaRi. samlocvelo VIIIX saukuneebiT unda daTariRes. am uZveles samlocveloze mogvianebiT, daaxloebiT XIII-XIV saukuneebSi, CrdiloeTidan gacilebiT didi saydari miudgamT, romelsac, Tavis mxriv, Tanadrouli CrdiloeTis ori minaSeni saros mamali tye-javaxeTi aqvs. maTgan erT-erTi damatebiT samlocvelos warmoadgens da mTavar darbazs gaSlili TaRiT ukavSirdeba. rogorc didi, ise mcire darbazis sakurTxevlis absidis naxevarwre dabrecilia. mTliani taZris Sida zomebia: sigrZeSi 9,3 m. siganeSi 7,1 m. daaxloebiT 1 m.-is sisqis kedlebi sufTad gaTlili qvis didi kvadrebiTaa ayvanili da maTze aranairi CuqurTma ar aris. ...gza nel-nnela Crdilo-aaRmosavleTiT ixreba. TokSi SevdivarT. sofelSi metnaklebad saRsalamaTad aTiod saxli gamoiyureba da aqedanac naxevars boqlomi adevs. ai, ukve ori saaTia, rac TokSi vtrialebT, magram erTi TavCaqindruli kacis garda aravis gauvlia _ puris tomrebiT datvirTuli cxeni mihyavs. karga moSorebiT Saosani dedaberi saqmianobs aivanze... arc ZaRlis yefa, arc mamlis yivili. osmalos batonobisas welSi rom gatyda Toki, mas mere asea _ vinc marTlmadidebloba ar daTmo, gadaixvewa, vinc daTmo, _ gaTurqda da ierli gaxda. 1944 wels ierli Sua aziaSi gadaasaxles da Toki mTlad dacarielda. grdemlisa da uros Widilis xma ismis _ mWedeli sofels amxnevebs. aq, saroSi, bibliur sofels Sevcqeri. sarodan 4-5 kilometrSi, saroswylis ayolebaze, mis marjvena napirze xizabavraa gaSenebuli. xizabavra is sofemere, TiTqos, lia, romelmac aspinZis axlomdebare qaomSi gamarjvebul mefe rTuli sofleerekles sanaqebod umasbidan amovida pinZla. sofeli somexi ramdenime komli, mematianis cnobiT, 841xelimagram, saros mTavarangelozis eklesia da cixis koSkis 842 wlebidan Cans, roca suflebis uyunaSali saqarTveloSi SemoWrili radRebobis gamo, arabi sardali xalil umetesobam fexi leqsidan Cans: `sarvelebi Tavis ver moikida. Tavsa javaxelad ara scnoben, ibn-iazidi swored javaxeTSi, Tokis centrSi XIV saukunis vinc javaxi dauZaxos, im kacs kerZod ki xizabirSi mouklavT. amdenad, is versia, rom xizabavra darbazuli saydari, sabednierod, hkicxven, im kacs gmoben~. aRdgenilia. Tlili, ruxi qvis amJamindeli 200-komliani sa- ori soflis mkvidrTa erToblidaudevari wyobiT aSenebul ekle- ro zevidan dascqeris mis sakre- vi dasaxlebiT warmoqmnili tosias etyoba, rom XIV saukunis buloSi Semaval patara nijgors, ponimia, Zalian Zvel dros unda ostati iseTi gulmodgine ar iyo, romelic yurZniT, xiliT da me- gvaxsenebdes. erTi sofeli `xirogorc misi winapari. kargamoke- tadre kaklis siuxviT iwonebs za~, sadRac maxloblad yofila, tili saydris win IX-X saukune- Tavs mtkvris xeobaSi, orive sof- meore _ `bavra~ ki dResac zed ebis ramdenime qvajvari devs. od- lis xalxi, Cemi dakvirvebiT er- akravs axalqalaqs. 300-komlian nav moSorebiT WobareTisxevs ga- Ti `Camosxmisaa~. istoriuli qar- xizabavrSi, dRes 290 komli kadascqeris Zveli, mkvdari sofeli. texilebis kvali dResac SemorCe- Tolike qarTvelia, danarCeni 10 morRveuli saxlebis kedlebi yo- nia aqaur vaJkacTa gafoladebul, marTlmadidebelia. kaTolikeni reTa doneze dasula. TiTqos daxvewil saxeebs, gamoxedvas da XIX saukunis bolos vatikanis soflisTvis saxuravi auxdiaT da mozomil sityvas. erT-erT maT- daxmarebiT agebul da dRes moqzevidan davcqeri Camqral si- gans, siberes miaxloebul vaso med im did taZarSi loculoben, cocxles. kidev ufro aRmosavle- aspaniZes sasiamovno garegnobis, romelsac `qristes wminda guli~ TiT, zed kldis Tavze, dangreu- darbaisel kacs im uZeelesi ci- hqvia. marTlmadidebelTa Zveli, li koSkia, romelic bolos, Tur- xis naSalTan mivyavar, romlis patara, magram ostaturad nagebi me, gamahmadianebul abaSiZes ekuT- warwera misi amgebis vinaobas darbazuli eklesia XI saukunisa vnoda. gvacnobs _ vaCe gurgenis Ze. mis- unda iyos, rasac erT-erTi warvtovebT Toks da dasavleTiT, Tvis demetre pirvels rexi da ma- weris (`qriste, Seiwyale... mamai sarosken mivemgzavrebiT. sevdas Wa uCuqebia. gamodis, rom Zegli suliTa da giorgi Seiwyale~) paxalisi cvlis, sasowarkveTas _ XII saukunisaa, arada qvaTa mega- leografiuli analizi cxadhimedi. da es ara imitom, rom sa- liTur wyobas, TiTqos, gacile- yofs. eseklesia wminda giorgis ro didad dalxinebuli sofelia, biT Zvel droSi gadavyavarT. aqve saxelobisaa, magram xibazavrSi aramed imitom, rom fesvi ar gax- dgas IX-X saukuneebis mTavarange- mas kidev ori Serqmeuli saxeli mobia da qarTuli sisxli ar daS- lozebis ornaviani eklesia. masSi aqvs: `laSas saydari~ da `Raribretia. dRemdea Semonaxuli sawinamZRvro Ta eklesia~. pirveli saxeli, alTurqTa uRlis dros saroe- bavrayi, romelsac yovelwliurad baT taZris erT-erTi warweris lebma udidesi gmiroba gamoiCines. gamoabrZaneben xolme da sofelSi gamoZaxilia, romelSic laSa-gimaSin, roca javaxeTis erTma na- daatareben. saroSi yvelaferi Za- orgia naxsenebi (`qriste, Seiwyawilma gamahmadianebas Tavi ver lian saintereso da arqaulia: le laSa alastneli javaxT ufaaarida, xolo meore nawilma ga- viwro, yoriani quCabandebi, erdo- li~). meore saxeli imdroindeli darCenis mizniT kaTolikoba mii- baniani, dedaboZiani da mercxlis- unda iyos, roca osmaleTis impeRo, saroelebma daufaravad ata- buda Weriani darbazebi, adamiane- riaSi yofnisas (axalcixis safares sjuli. karga xnis manZilze, bi, Tivisa da wivis zvinebi. TiT- So), aqauri da SedarebiT laRad javaxs rom ityodnen, gaTurqebu- qos mamalic qarTulad yivis. er- mcxovrebi gakaTolikebuli qarTli Tu gakaTolikebuli qarTveli Ti saxlis win oTaraanT qvrivis velebi, marTlmadideblad darCean aq mosuli somxebi hyavdaT msgavsi dedakaci Camomjdara da nil da dabeCavebul qarTvelebs mxedvelobaSi. saroelebs maTSi windas qsovs, gzaze viRac saxed- medidurad uyurebdnen. am patara aTqvefa ar surdaT da protesti rebs modenis, iqve _ ficrulidan taZars aqvs osmalos batonobis dros Semovlebuli galavani, roTaviseburad gamoxates. es erTi melSic mxedruli asoebiT Sereuli nusxuri warwera aris: `saTokis monasteri, soflis eklesia `wminda giorgi~ Tavisi xeliTa RmrTisiTa ahRmarTes ... stelebiT da xizabavris `laSas saydari~ Cven saroelman...~ rogorc es warwera cxadhyofs, osmaleTis batonobaSi saroelebi xizabavraSi mcxovrebi marTlmadidebeli qarTvelebis gadarCenazec zrunavdnen da maT taZars ganamtkicebdnen. laSas taZris galavanTan erTi didi, gemrieli wyaro gadmosCqefs. vinc ar unda gaiaros aq, marTlmadidebelma Tu kaTolikem, yvela am wyaros ewafeba. gela qoqiaSvili avtoris fotoebi saerTo gazeTi 25 #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. jemal davlianiZe SevardnaZe qveyanas angrevda! evroamerika SevardnaZes aqebda da aqebda! Cavida safrangeTSi SevardnaZe! didi pativiscemiT miiRes! misma sazRvargareTelma megobrebma kargad ician, ra bedovlaTia `didi politikosi~, magram mTavaria Cven, qarTvelebma davijeroT es ambavi. amerikeli, germaneli, ingliseli, frangi rom ityvis SevardnaZis Sesaxeb `didiao~, rao, qarTveli da Tan doylapia, amas ar daijerebs? SevardnaZe didad daafasa evroamerikam, magram manve ar miiRo zviad gamsaxurdia. SevardnaZe `did politikosad~ monaTles, zviad gamsaxurdia ki _ faSistad! TviTon SevardnaZis specbrigadebi TiTqmis mudam dRe axorcieleben rkinigzebis, xidebis, sxvadasxva obieqtebis afeTqebas da amas abraleben CeCneTSi gadaxvewil zviad gamsaxurdias! am dros, bneleTis jurRmulebSi, romelic mfarvelobs SevardnaZes, gadawyvetileba ukve miRebulia _ zviad gamsaxurdia aucileblad unda ganadgurdes fizikurad. evroamerikuli saZmo ki mTeli msoflios gasagonad aqebs, adidebs SevardnaZes! exmarebian, ajildoeben da gaiZaxian, rom SevardnaZe msoflio rangis udidesi politikosia! Rirseul adamians, vinc odnav mainc icnobs eduard SevardnaZes, sircxvili dawvavs, iseTi saqebari werilebi modis amerikidan. ase magaliTad, 1992 wlis aprils, amerikis SeerTebuli Statebis prezidenti jorj buSi, werils ugzavnis SevardnaZes da es mimarTva kargad rom gaisigrZegano, gaxlavT erTgvari angariSis Cabareba. gaocdebi kaci _ iseTi STabeWdileba rCeba, TiTqos im ubneles ierarqiaSi, romelsac SevardnaZe ekuTvnis, jorj buSs gacilebiT naklebi xarisxi gaaCnia. vnaxoT faqti! wavikiTxoT jorj buSis werili: `mis aRmatebulebas eduard SevardnaZes, saqarTvelos respublikis saxelmwifo sabWos Tavmjdomares! Zvirfaso Tavmjdomare eduard SevardnaZev! dRes sajarod gamovaqveyneb yofili sabWoTa kavSiris damoukidebel saxelmwifoTa demokratiisa da Tavisufali bazrebis mxardamWer mTel rig axal iniciativebs. msurs winaswar SegatyobinoT Cemi gancxadebis ambavi. imisaTvis, rom am saqmeSi Cavaba aRmasrulebeli xelisufleba, kongresi da amerikeli xalxi da stimuli mivce mravalmxriv Zalisxmevas, vacxadeb, rom viReb ruseTisa da evraziis sxva xalxebisaTvis daxmarebis yovlismomcvel pakets. jer erTi, vacxadeb, rom mxars vuWerT yovlismomcvel mravalmxriv ekonomikur stabilizaciis programas saerTaSoriso savaluto fondis, msoflio bankisa da `Svideulis~ meSveobiT, masSi gaTvaliswinebuli iqneba eqvsi miliardi dolaris gamoyofa valutis stabilizaciis fondSi da 18 miliardi dolarisa _ ruseTisTvis damatebiTi makroekonomikuri daxmarebis gasawevad (aSSi tyuil-u ubralod arasodes aravis exmareba, miT umetes ruseTs. Tanac, ra SuaSi unda iyos Sevar- gagrZeleba. dasawyisi ix. `saerTo gazeTi~ #14-38 mware gakveTilebi evroamerika, ruseTi da saqarTvelo ciklidan: omi bneleTTan _ ricxvi misi 666 dnaZe? ratom atyobinebs winaswar jorj buSi SevardnaZes _ gixarodes, ruseTs unda davexmaroo? iqneb imitom, rom ruseTi ukve gamzadebuli hyavdaT dasaSlelad da dasaqucmaceblad? _ j.d.). vkisrulobT valdebulebas, gavuwioT mxardaWera damatebiT makroekonomikuri stabilizaciis Zalisxmevas saqarTveloSi (sul ramdenime Tvis damxobilia kanonieri xelisufleba da mZvinvarebs SevardnaZis terori! _ j.d.) da sxva damoukidebel saxelmwifoebSi (sadac zviad gamsaxurdias msgavsad dinebis sawinaaRmdegod aravin dacuravs! _ j.d.) imis kvalobaze, Tu rogor imuSavebT saerTaSoriso savaluto fondTan im reformaTa yovelmxrivi gegmis formulirebisaTvis, romlebic imsaxureben ndobas. meorec, kongresSi vgzavni yovlismomcvel integrirebul winadadebebs _ 1992 wlis aqts Tavisuflebis mxardaWeris Sesaxeb (RmerTo, gviSvele! _ j.d.) es kanonmdebloba miznad isaxavs imas, rom moixsnas `civi omis~ periodis SezRudvebi da miviRoT axali uflebamosilebani, SeerTebulma Statebma SeZlos, rac SeiZleba ukeT Seuwyos xeli Tqvens Zalisxmevas, aSenoT demokratia da Tavisufali bazari. igi agreTve Seicavs Tqvens qveyanaSi vaWrobas da investiciebSi amerikis kompaniaTa gafarToebis SesaZleblobebis mniSvnelovan debulebebs. mesamec, vacxadeb, rom dRes damatebiT gamoiyofa 1,1 miliardi dolaris odenobis sakredito garantiebi sasofli-ssameurneo saqonlis Sesasyidad. samomxmareblo kreditebis korporaciis saxiT 600 milion sakredito garantiebs gadavcemT ruseTs, danarCeni 500 milioni gadairicxeba ukrainis da sxva saxelmwifoebisaTvis. Cvens mier gadadgmul nabijebTan erTad, Cemi mizania is, rom amerikam dauWiros mxari Tqvens qveyanaSi demokratias da ganmtkicdes Semdgomi saerTaSoriso Zalisxmeva da koordinacia. imedi maqvs, rom mxars damiWerT erTobliv moqmedebaSi, romlis mizania, uzrunvelvyoT demokratiisa da Tavisufali bazrebis ayvaveba. gulwrfelad Tqveni jorj buSi~. da megobrebo, aqve, amave dros, amave gazeTSi jorj buSis werils mosdevs cnoba: `saqarTvelos respublikis saxelmwifo sabWos Tavmjdomarem eduard SevardnaZem werili miiRo moskovis mTavrobis premieris i. lukianovisa da qalaq moskovis meris g. popovisagan. werilSi kerZod naTqvamia: `pativcemulo eduard ambrosis Zev! gaiTvaliswina ra, saqarTvelos respublikaSi sursaTis nakleboba, da xelmZRvanelobs ra, ruseTisa da saqarTvelos xalxebis tradiciuli megobruli urTierTobiT (sad iyo aqamde `tradiciuli megobroba~? nuTu zviad gamsaxurdias dros qarTveli xalxi sxva iyo da SevardnaZis dros ki _ sxva? ra moxda? ra ga- rigebas ar awerda xels zviadi da raze daiTanxmes SevardnaZe, rom evroamerikidan Tu ruseTidan ase uxvad moayares sursaT-ssanovage? _ j.d.), ruseTis mTavrobam Tebervalsa da martSi gamogzavna saqarTvelos respublikaSi 135 tona Saqari, 320 tona fqvili. aprilsa da maisSi gamovagzavniT kidev 1500 tona fqvils. daiwyo TbilisSi 5 aTasi tona kartofilis gamogzavna. garda amisa, gadawyda moskovis rezervebidan respublikaSi umokles vadebSi 5 aTasi tona benzinisa da 5 aTasi tona dizelis saTbobis, daaxloebiT 80 samgzavro avtobusis, komunaluri meurneobisaTvis gankuTvnili 20 avtomanqanis, agreTve sawarmoo-t teqnikuri daniSnulebis mniSvnelovani moculobis produqciis gamogzavnis sakiTxebi. guliTad madlobas mogaxsenebT saqarTvelodan Tambaqos, spirtiani sasmelebisa da sxva saqonlis Semxvedri mowodebisaTvis. imedi gvaqvs, rom momavalSi kidev ufro ganviTardeba moskovisa da saqarTvelos respublikis mTavrobaTa TanamSromloba~ (orive werili dabeWilia gazeT `saqarTvelos respublikaSi~, #56, 1992 wlis 8 aprils). RmerTo Cemo! ra siamtkbilobaa jorj buSs, SevardnaZes, lukianovsa da popovs Soris. sisxliT morwyuli saqarTvelo, amerika da ruseTi! amerika da ruseTi, orive Zmurad uwvdis xels mTlad sisxliT morwyul saqarTvelos. guSin, roca kanonieri xelisufleba hyavda qarTvelebs, yvelam blokada gamoucxada. SevardnaZe gamoCnda Tu ara, msoflios yvela qveynidan wamovida mravalmxrivi daxmareba, romelic qarTvel xalxamde dResac, 2009 welsac ar mosula! sad mihqondaT? sakuTar ojaxebSi, megobrebSi da zogs, did nawils, ukanve agzavnidnen isev da isev madlobis niSnad. mTavari ki isaa, rom aSS-c c kmayofilia da maSindeli ruseTic. TiTqos SevardnaZe iseT raRacas dahpirda... mainc ras? ra SeiZleba yofiliyo? iqneb afxazeTi da cxinvalis regioni? ufro sworad _ afxazeTi da samaCablo ruseTs, danarCeni ki _ amerikaso!? rao, dRes rac ukve moxda _ afxazeTi da e.w. samxreT oseTi, rom ukve saqarTvelodan mowyvetilia, gana faqti ar gaxlavT? zemoT Cven vnaxeT amerikis da ruseTis Sexmatkbilebuli werili, sasiyvarulo mimarTvebi SevardnaZisadmi. axla gadavxedoT 1992 wlis isev aprilis, oRond Sua aprilis ambebs, rogor exmarebian SevardnaZes (da ara saqarTvelos,) germaniidan. gavSaloT gazeTi `saqarTvelos respublika~ (#60, 1992 wlis 14 aprili), romlis mowinave gverdze, pirvel gverdze msxvili asoebiT aweria: `evropa da saqarTvelo erTmaneTis Sesaxvedrad daiZrnen~. Turme saqarTveloSi CamobrZanebula evropa, romelsac hqvia germaniis vice-kkancleri, sagareo saqmeTa ministri hans-d ditrix genSeri da mas daxvedria saqarTvelo _ eduard SevardnaZe. vkiTxulob hans-d ditrix genSeris sityvas: `Zvirfaso eduard, Zvirfaso nanuli! qalbatonebo da batonebo! `vin moyvaresa ar eZebs, igi Tavisa mteria~ es strofi, didi qarTveli da evropeli (biWos, yoCaR batono genSer, Cven aqamde ar vicodiT, rom SoTa rusTaveli evropeli poeti yofila! rogor CamovrCenilvarT, Zlivs ar agvixile Tvali am kavkasielebs? _ j.d.) poetis, SoTa rusTavelisa, amSvenebs mis Zegls rusTavelis parkSi, bolSaia gruzinskaias quCaze, moskovSi. parkis pirdapir germaniis saelCoa, romelic ganlagebulia Tavad bagrationis yofil sasaxleSi (germania, genSeri, magram kvlav moskovi. aqac daSaqrulni arian germania, saqarTvelo da ruseTi! iqneb marTldeba Cemi varaudi? maSinve xom ar gaurigda SevardnaZe evroamerikas da ruseTs-ssaqarTvelos orad gagiyofT, Tqven mSvidad iyaviTo? _ j.d.). am Zegls Cauvlis yvela, vinc ki germaniis saelCoSi midis. visac am strofis gageba surda, iman gaigo igi (raRacas orazrovnebs batoni ditrixi, - vgoneb, mxedvelobaSi hyavs SevradnaZe, romelmac gaigo SoTa rusTavelis cnobili Segoneba, xolo zviad gamsaxurdiam ver SeZlo, ver waikiTxa `vefxistyaosani~, ar eyo imdeni ganaTleba, codna, marifaTi, rom kargad aReqva da gaego! arada, batoni genSeri da SevardnaZe rasac fizikurad iwonidnen orive erTad, zviads asi imdeni wigni hqonda wakiTxuli da brwyinvale naSromic hqonda `vefxistyaosnis saxismetyveleba~. ra samwuxaro droa! ra saSineleba trialebs dRevandel msoflioSi! _ j.d.). es sityvebi WeSmaritebas RaRadeben da maT saukuneebs gauZles. es WeSmariteba is aris, rom urTierTgageba, megobroba da TanamSromloba yvelafris sawyaoa. ukanasknel wlebSi, Cven yvela davrwmundiT, Tu ra marTali iyo poeti. es asea: `vin moyvaresa ar eZebs, igi Tavisa mteria~ da me, am sityvebiT, romlebic Cven gvakavSirebs, mivmarTav Cems megobars, eduard SevardnaZes (ra megobroba autyda baton genSers ssrk-ss sagareo ministrTan, xom aris saintereso? _ j.d.)... civi omi istorias Cabarda, evropis politikuri dayofa daZleulia. Tqven, batono Tavmjdomarev, Tqveni wvlili SeitaneT am istoriul procesSi. SorsmWvretelobiT da pasuxismgeblobiT mSvidobisaTvis aRniSnulia Tqveni politika. amiT Tqven safuZveli CauyareT saqarTvelos damoukideblobis xorcSesxmas, damoukidebeli, Tavisufali saqarTvelosaTvis, msoflios saxelmwifoebis Tanamegobrobis wevrisaTvis. es ar SeiZleba ganviTarebis saboloo punqti iyos. saqarTvelo dRes dgas didi samomavlo amocanebis winaSe. demokratiuli gardaqmnebi mSvidobian da Tavisufal sazogadoebaSi. saqarTvelo 24 martidan evropis uSiSroebis da TanamSromlobis sabWos wevria. man aRiara am sabWos yvela valdebuleba da gadawyvetileba. parizis qartia _ evropis konstitucia dRes saqarTveloSic moqmedebs. gardaqmna moiTxovs did Zalisxmevas. is moiTxovs stabilurobas da mxardaWeras (am dros SevardnaZis specialuri samxedro-kkriminaluri danayofebi arbevs da xvrets dasavleT saqarTvelos sxvadasxva kuTxeebs. apatimrebs da awamebs saqarTvelos respublikis pirveli da kanonieri prezidentis momxreebs. cixeebSi amwyvdevs da awamebs politikur patimrebs! _ j.d.). Cven germanelebs, gvsurs viyoT Tqveni saimedo, da Tu Tqvenc inebebT, mrCeveli da partniori. es Cvens interesebsac Seesabameba. Tqvens qveyanaSi mimdinare procesebi mTel evropas exeba. evropa ver gaxdeba erTiani Tu mis nawilebSi saSiSroeba da SfoTianoba iqneba. ... dRes msovlio Zirfesvianad Seicvala. germania da saqarTvelo im evropis ori nawilia, romelmac daZlia samxedro da politikuri dapirispireba. dRes safuZvels vuyriT Cveni qveynebis mWidro TanamSromlobas, romlis mizania mSvidoba (am mSvidobis mtredis TbilisSi yofnisas, roca momitingeebs daeria policia, ZaRlebic ki miusies adamianebs da bevrs axsovs am cxovelebs xalxma `genSerebi~ Searqva! _ j.d.). batono Tavmjdomarev! me vwev Wiqas da warmovTqvam Tqvens sadRegr-ZZelos, Tqveni qveynisa da misi moqalaqeebis sadRegrZelos, Cveni qveynebis mSvidobiani da Tavisufali momavlis sadRegrZelos~. (gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi) ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~ internetSi www.saertogazeti.com SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-z ze 26 saerTo gazeTi #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. devnilis xma xelisuflebis jibeSia dekarti brZanebs: “vazrovneb, maSasadame, varsebob” da radgan vcocxlobT da radgan varsebobT, uamrav problemasTan gvixdeba gamklaveba. “ar aris kaci, ar aris problema.” problema esaa, rTuli Teoriuli an praqtikuli sakiTxi, romelic saWiroebs Seswavlas, axsnas, ganmartebas. dRevandel saqarTveloSi ar xdeba problemis arc Seswavla, arc axna da arc ganmarteba. dRes, mxolod dapirebebia. dapireba, rom xval ukeTesi dRe gveqneba. arada, dResaa saWiro gadawydes problema. problema ki uamravia. mxolod sam ZiriTad Temas Sevexebi: devnilebi, umuSevrebi, diasporebi. gamigia termini – mkvdrad Sobili kanoni. ai, mkvdrad Sobili saministroebis Sesaxeb araferi msmenia. ramdenime wlis winaT Seiqmna diasporebis kuTxiT saxelmwifo aparati. dRemde gaurkvevelia, ra funqcia da ra roli aqvs am uwyebas, romelic ratomRac arCevnebis wina periodSi axsendebaT da iTvlian ucxoeTSi myof qarTvelebs, ufro sworad, maT xmebs. aseve sruliad gaurkvevelia dasaqmebis saministros Tebis gacema. metic, wina saarCevnod, kompaqturad Casaxlebul obieqtebSi Cndeba erTi yoCaRi, xuTosani devnili, romelic ukeTebs organizebas devnilebis misamarTebs, isini mihyavs saministroSi. saministro ki uproblemod gascems axal misamarTebs. garantia aqvT “yoCaRisgan”, rom es adamianebi aucileblad Semoxazaven #5-s. aseve winasaarCevnod galidan gadmohyavT devnilebi, romlebsac amisamarTeben kompaqtur misamarTebze xuTianis Semoxazvis sanacvlod. aseve winasaarCevnod, saministroSi iwyeba erTjeradi fuladi daxmarebebis gacema, devnilebiT Casaxlebuli obieqtebis mopirkeTeba da qonebis sakuTrebaSi gadacema. aseve mniSvnelovania erTi detali: wina saarCevnod, xSir SemTxvevaSi, devnilis mowmobaze xdeba droebTi misamarTis grafaSi mxolod regionis dasaxeleba anu umisamarTo misamarTi. am mowmobiT ki pirs ufleba aqvs aRniSnul raionSi misces xma. devnilebi principiT – dRevandeli kvercxi mirCevnia xvalindel qaTams, iyeneben am Sanss. SiSiT, esec ar davkargoT tiris prezidenti. Caivlis arCevnebi da saxelmwifos xerxemali, anu sazogadoeba aviwydebaT. arCevnebamde ki axsendebaT iZulebiT gadaadgilebuli pirebi. arCevnebis Semdeg ki maTi problema problemad rCeba. devnilis xma aRar esmis da aRar adardebs xelisuflebas. is ukve mis jibeSia momaval arCevnebamde. kidev erTi devnili afiqsirebs Tavis azrs, mxolod im imediT, rom inkognitod darCeba: -ukve erTi Tvea ministrTan Sexvedras viTxov. ministramde ver mivedi. mas CvenTvis ar calia. amaTi imedi rogor unda mqondes. ar minda, magram iZulebuli var, ucxoeTSi wavide. aba, aq 28 larze rogor vacxovro col-Svili? amaTi imedi ar maqvs. eseni Cven ver dagvabruneben Cvens saxlebSi. xandaxan imasac vfiqrob, rom soxumSi davbrunde. ar mainteresebs, ras ityvian Cemze. Tundac moRalate da eris gamyidveli meZaxon. col-Svils SimSiliT xom ar movklav? gaRizianebuli devnilebi saministros ezoSi erTmaneTs funqcia. ufro sworad, garkveulia - ra unda am saministros. trapaiZis uwyeba gadasulia Riad daiTvalos xmebi. TiToeul ojaxSi Sedis agenti da ar aqvs mniSvneloba muSaobs Tu ara esa Tu is piri, isini anketas avseben da gamokiTxvis bolos Rimiliani interviueri iwers respondentis mobiluris, saxlis nomers da piradobis mowmobis nomrebs. daaxloebiT 3-4 dReSi dasaqmebis saministrodan Rimiliani xma ukavSirdeba moqalaqes da agentis Taobaze ekiTxeba – ramdenad moewona igi da rame pretenzia xom ar aqvs agentis muSaobaze. isedac SeSinebuli sazogadoeba am faqtiT ufro metad izRudeba. misi gvar-saxeli monacemTa bazaSi Sedis da iZulebulia saxelisuflo partias dauWiros mxari. ufro metad uaresi da damabneveli situaciaa subelianis yofil uwyebaSi. devnilebis saministroSi devnilebi arCevnebis win axsendebaT. faqtia, devnilis xma igebs arCevnebs. wlebis manZilze ukanonod SeCerebuli droebiTi misamarTebi, mxolod arCevnebis win axldeba da iwyeba qaoturad devnilebis miwera ama Tu im regionSi. im mizniT, rom devnilma SeZlos xmis micema. yovelgvari berketis gareSe xdeba rogorc kerZo, aseve organizebuli misamar- rac gvaqvso, erTaderT xmas aZleven xelisuflebas. maT ar sjeraT moqmedi xelisuflebis. maT ukve arc imis sjeraT, rom xelisufleba momaval axal wels soxumsa da cxinvalSi Sexvdeba. isini daiRalnen mudmivi dapirebebiT. gvesaubreba devnili, romelmac gvTxova, ar gavamJRavnoT misi vinaoba: -ra vqna, meSinia. uamravi problema maqvs. vici, rom am tyuilSi vcxovrobT 20 welia. erTaderTi, rac minda, es afxazeTSi dabrunebaa. Semovxazav “5”-s. Svilebi myavs, maT samsaxuri undaT. ra vqna? aravin gvexmareba. 10 kvadratSi cxovrebasac Sevegue. amaTi 28 lariani daxmareba meyofa? vici, gvatyueben. rogorc undaT ise gveqcevian. miTxres binas mogcemTo. rom vkiTxe _ sad-meTqi? ra mniSvneloba aqvso. Sen xma mogveci da mere getyviTo. ai, aseT SiSi varT. iZulebiT mivcem xmas, aba, ra gavakeTo? saubris gagrZeleba aRar isurva respondentma. SiSs didi Tvalebi aqvs. daSinebul devnilebs ki Tavs zeviT Zala ar aqvT. xelisufleba ki konfrontacias uwyobs xels. gaxleCil sazogadoebas ufro metad apirispirebs erTmaneTTan da mxolod piarze muSaobs. mxolod kamerebis win niangis cremlebiT uziareben azrs da amiT gahyavT dro. ician, xelisufleba maT problemebs ver moagvarebs, magram ra qnan, xandaxan tyuili dapirebac stimuli. xom unda icxovron, ufro sworad xom unda iarsebon. isev “usaxelo” devnili: -axlobeli gardaicvala ruseTSi. dRemde gvpirdeba saministro fuls gamovyofT da gadmosvenebaSi dagidgebiT gverdiTo. axla arCevnebi axlovdeba da imedi maqvs, fuls gaiReben. mis sanacvlod ki Semovxazav “5”-s. aba, ra vqna. Cvens micvalebuls upatrod xom ar mivagdebT. fuli amaT aqvT, Cven ki imas vakeTebT, rac maT undaT. mjera-ar mjeras principia qveyanaSi. Aar sjera devnilebs, magram xmas nacionalebs miscemen. ratom? pasuxi martiviaSiSi. aRar undaT mesamed devniloba. am SiSis fonze, winasaarCevnod, devnilTa monacemebis baza yvelaze bolos Sedis cesko-Si. damuSavebuli, mowesrigebuli da garantirebuli xmebi ki xelisuflebis jibeSia. ician devnilebma, yvelaferi ician, magram ... neba Tavisufalia! samiode kviraSi saqarTvelos moqalaqeebi arCevans gaakeTeben, ufro sworad, gaakeTebineben! qeTi yvelaSvili saerTo gazeTi 27 #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. saqarTvelos centraluri saarCevno komisiis Tavmjdomares baton zurab xaratiSvils! g a n c x a d e b a batono zurab! 2012 wlis 12 agvistos `saqarTvelos saarCevno kodeqsis~ 113-ee muxlis me-9 9 punqtis Tanaxmad, warmogidgineT `uflis saxeliT _ ufalia Cveni simarTle~-ss mier saqarTvelos parlamentis 2012 wlis 1 oqtombris arCevnebSi partiis monawileobis mxardamWer amomrCevelTa sia, saerTo raodenobiT 26 896 (ocdaeqvsi aTas rvaas oTxmocdaTeqvsmeti) xelmowera. 2012 wlis 16 agvistos ceskos Sesabamisi samsaxuris mier aRniSnuli siis Semowmebis Sedegad mizezTa gamo gabaTilebuli iqna 11 322 (TerTmeti aTas samasocdaori) xelmowera da darCa 15 574 (TxuTmeti aTas xuTas samocdaToTxmeti) xelmowera. dafiqsirebuli xarvezis Sesavsebad gankuTvnili drois vadaSi, saqarTvelos organuli kanonis `saqarTvelos saarCevno kodeqsis~ 38-ee muxlis me-2 2 punqtis Sesabamisad. Cvens mier Segrovili da Tqvendami 2012 wlis 18 agvistos warmodgenili `uflis saxeliT _ ufalia Cveni simarTles mier saqarTvelos parlamentis 2012 wlis 1 oqtombris arCevnebSi partiis monawileobis mxardamWer amomrCevelTa siis saerTo raodenoba gaxldaT: 12 339 (Tormeti aTas samas ocdacxrameti). centraluri saarCevno komisiis administraciuli departamentis mier 2012 w. 18 agvistoTi daTariRebul aqtSi, kerZod, vkiTxulobT `TanamimdevrobiT sul Semowmda 412 furcelze 12 339 (Tormeti aTas samas ocdacxrameti) xelmowera; Semowmebis Sedegad gabaTilda 113 furcelze 3390 (sami aTas samas oTxmocdaaTi) xelmowera da darCa 8 949 (rva aTas cxraas ormocdacxra) xelmowera~. centraluri saarCevno komisiis administraciuli departamentis ufrosis q-nn elisabed veliZis mier iqve gakeTebuli zepiri ganmartebiT irkveoda, rom blankze xelmowerebis SegrovebisaTvis pasuxismgebel pirTa mier maTi xelmoweris TariRi, TiTqosda, arasrulad iyo miTiTebuli, rameTu mag. weria _ `17.08.12 w.~ rac arasrulia, da unda eweros _`17.08.2012 w~-iio. maSasadame, gamodioda, rom CvenTvis ukve CaTvlil _ 15 574 (TxuTmeti aTas xuTas samocdaToTxmet) xelmoweras, emateboda `mxolod~ _ 8.949 (rva aTas cxraas ormocdacxra) xelmowera. rac jamSi gvaZlevs 24. 523 (ocdaoTxi aTas xuTas ocdasami) xelmoweras da aseTi `operaciis~ Sedegad, saqarTvelos organuli kanonis `saqarTvelos saarCevno kodeqsis~ 113-ee muxlis me-9 9 punqtiT gansazRvrul 25 000 savaldebulo xelmoweras `akldeboda~ _ 477 xelmowera, anu Cven aRar gveZleoda saarCevno subieqtad daregistrirebis ufleba. batono zurab! aRniSnulTan mimarTebaSi Tqvens mier miRebul #51-2 2012 gankargulebaSi, CvenTvis saarCevno registraciaze uaris Tqmis safuZvlad _ saqarTvelos organuli kanonis `saqarTvelos saarCevno kodeqsis~ 38-ee muxlis me-4 4 punqtis gansazRvruli moTxovnebis aradakmayofilebis miTiTeba zustad ar asaxavs sinamdviles. rogorc mogexsenebaT, xsenebuli muxli gvauwyebs: _`4. baTilia yvela xelmowera, Sesrulebuli im blankze, romelic dadasturebuli ar aris xelmowerebis SegrovebisaTvis pasuxismgebeli piris mier, an romelSic miTiTebuli ar aris an arasrulad aris miTiTebuli am kanonis 37-ee muxlis me4 punqtiT gaTvaliswinebuli monacemebi~ (muxli 38,4), xolo: _`4. mxardamWerTa siis blankSi miTiTebuli unda iyos xelmowerebis SegrovebisaTvis pasuxismgebeli piris saxeli, gvari, misamarTi (saqarTvelos moqalaqis piradobis mowmobis mixedviT) da sakontaqto telefonis nomeri, agreTve blankis Sevsebis TariRi da dadasturebuli unda iyos am piris xelmoweriT~ (muxli 37.4); amasTanave, xelmoweris Sesrulebis TariRTan mimarTebaSi, saqarTvelos organuli kanonis `saqarTvelos saarCevno kodeqsis~ 38-ee muxlis 3-d d punqti gvauwyebs: _`3. mxardamWerTa siaSi amomrCevlis xelmowera baTilad miiCneva, Tu: d) xelmoweris TariRi miTiTebuli ar aris an ar emTxveva am kanoniT gansazRvrul mxardamWerTa siis Sedgenis vadas~. Cvens mier warmodgenili mxardamWerTa xelmomweri blankebi saqarTvelos organuli kanonis `saqarTvelos saarCevno kodeqsis~ yvela moTxovnaTa sruli dacviTaa Sesrulebuli, kerZod ki yvelgan miTiTebulia. xelmoweris TariRi, romelic zustad emTxveva `am kanoniT gansazRvrul mxardamWerTa siis Sedgenis vadas~. weria _`17.08.12 w.~ rac arasrulia, da unda eweros _`17.08.2012 w.~.io. igi (es e.w. xarvezi) ar SeiZleba gaxdes Cveni p-gg saarCevno subieqtad daregistrirebaze uaris Tqmis safuZveli, vinaidan, rogorc me _`17.08.12 w.~, aseve _ `17.08.2012 w.~, erTmaneTis identuria da zustad gansazRvravs, rom xelmowera Sesrulebulia mimdinare ori aTas Tormeti wlis 17 agvistos. Sesabamisad, Cvens p-gg `uflis saxeliT_ ufalia Cveni simarTles eqneba ara _ 24.523 (ocdaoTxi aTas xuTas ocdasami) xelmowera, aramed _ 27 913 (ocdaSvidi aTas cxraas cameti) xelmowera, rac srul safuZvels iZleva p-gg-ss `uflis saxeliT _ ufalia Cveni simarTle~-ss saarCevno subieqtad daregistrirebisaTvis. batono zurab! Cvengan damoukidebel mizezTa gamo Cveni p-gg `uflis saxeliT _ ufalia Cveni simarTle~-ss saarCevno subieqtad ardaregistrirebis Taobaze, Tqvens mier _ 2012 wlis 20 agvistos miRebuli #51-2 2012 gankarguleba Cven mxolod _ 2012 wlis 24 agvistos gadmogveca. aRniSnuli #51-2 2012 gankargulebis miRebidan misi CvenTvis mxolod me-4 4 dRes Cabarebisa gamo Cven SezRudulni aRmovCndiT gamoviyenoT saqarTvelos organuli kanonis `saqarTvelos saarCevno kodeqsis~ me-9 9 TaviT (saarCevno davis ganxorcieleba) gansazRvruli, CvenTvis kanoniT miniWebuli _ gasaCivrebis 2-d dRiani vadis ufleba (77-ee muxlis me-55 punqti, 78e muxlis me-110 punqti). aRniSnulidan gamomdinare, mogmarTavT TxovniT _ gaiTvaliswinoT zemoTqmuli da saqarTvelos organuli kanonis `saqarTvelos saarCevno kodeqsi~ TqvenTvis miniWebuli uflebiT miiRoT saqarTvelos parlamentis 2012 wlis 1 oqtombris arCevnebSi Cveni p-gg `uflis saxeliT _ ufalia Cveni simarTle~-ss saarCevno subieqtad daregistrirebis gadawyvetileba. imedi gvaqvs Tqvengan miviRebT zemoT wamoWrili kiTxvebis Sesabamis pasuxs. pativiscemiT `uflis saxeliT _ ufalia Cveni simarTle~-ss xelmZRvaneli `samarTlianobis aRdgenis kavSiris xma erisa: `ufalia Cveni simarTle~-ss `laskaris~ Tavmjdomare mixeil (gela) saluaSvili Tbilisi, 2012 wlis 26 agvisto Cvenma prezidentma amaswinandel baTumis mosaxleobasTan Sexvedrisas ganacxada: xalxi, isev Zvel, komunistebis dros mistiris, netav, im droSi kargi ra naxes? deni maSin ar iyo da gazi, wyali maSin ar gvqonda da gza. tanis dabana rom momindeboda, wyals, vedroTi vacxelebdi da `fr-fr~ ase visxamdio. Tavs zeviT xelis aweviT aCvena wylis dasxma. miSa, SeiZleba, prezidenti kaci, aseTi mamali tyuilebis Tqmas kadrulobdes da mosaxleobis winaSe Tavs ircxvendes? Tu dagaviwyda stalinis mier Seqmnil im brwyinvale socialisturi formaciis dros kargi ra iyo da ratom mistiris mas Cveni mosaxleoba? SegaxsenebT: _ im sistemis dros qarTveli kaci, maTxovari ar mina- siT 640 lari sWirdeba. amitom stalinis mier Seqmnil socializmSi cxovreba, yvelasaTvis saamuri iyo da imitom mistirian im yofas, radgan msoflioSi yvelaze demokratiuli formacia iyo socializmi. amitomac axla, Cveni mosaxleoba ambobs: _ Turme komunizmSi gvicxovria, da Cven ki, vera vxvdebodiTo. axla ki, vinc xalxis mier Seqmnili qoneba daitaca, komunizmSi arian im qonebis Semqmnelebi ki jojoxeTSi. Tqvengan nalanZRi socialisturi sistemis dros am xnis kacs me ar maxsovs komunistebs romelime ojaxisTvis an gazi CaeWraT da an deni gamoerToT. Tqvengan naqebma kapitalistebma ki Cemi karis mezoblebs oTxsulian ojaxs, romlebsac ori mcirewlovani _ 8 saxure, rom erTi kapikic ki, Cemi xelfasiT, Cemi premiiT da Cemi gamogonebebiT _ honoraris saxiT, saxelmwifos salarodan ar mimiRia. e.i. rasac me saxelmwifo ar maZlevda, anu binZuri fulisTvis xeli arasodes ar momikidia. miSa, is ra prezidentia, romelic Tavis xalxs danapirebs ar usrulebs da yovel fexis nabijze atyuebs? xavs, rasac ver vityvi, dRevandeli, Seni kapitalisturi sistemis yofis, radgan isini yovel fexis nabijze xelebgaSverilebi dganan. prezident kacs, im sistemaze augis saTqmelad ena rogor gibrundeba! radgan maSin visac muSaoba undoda yvelas Tavisi saintereso samuSao hqonda. (axla milioni welic rom gavides, is dasaqmeba aRarasodes aRar iqneba). maSin umuSevari ar arsebobda, radgan TiTqmis yvela fabrika-qarxnebis SesasvlelebSi gamokruli iyo siebi, gvWirdeba esa da es specialistebio. ama Tu im fabrikaSi, an qarxanaSi samuSao Tu ar moewoneboda, meoreSi gadadioda. Tu erT saproeqto organizaciaSi ar moewoneboda samuSao, meoreSi, an romelime sammarTveloSi Soulobda da 10 wlis bavSvebi hyavT, 4 wlis win (rodesac es bavSvebi 4 da 6 wlisani iyvnen) gazi rom gamourTes, es ojaxi dResac zamTarSi gaTbobis gareSea, bavSvebi skolidan rom modian loginSi wvebian da ise Tbebian. am ojaxs dResac deni gamorTuli aqvs. bavSvebi, saRamoTi, sxvis ganaTebul fanjrebs rom uyureben, dedas eubnebian: _ ra bednierebi arian is bavSvebi, visi fanjrebidanac eleqtronis Suqi gamokrTiso. SeiZleba mosaxleobis aseT yofaSi yofnis dros misi prezidenti Tavs iwonebdes?! batono mixeil, me rom prezidenti viyo, mividodi im ojaxSi, am mware sinamdviles rom vna- TavisTvis Sesaferis adgils, an sulac romelime kvleviT institutSi moewyoboda da a.S. romlebic Sen gaauqme da Senobebi dayide. sacxovrebeli binebi centralizebulad Tbeboda, zamTarSi, binaSi, iseTi Semawuxebeli siTbo iyo, rom siTbos Semomaval milebze, onkanebs vketavdiT. wylis onkans gadavabrunebdi _ civi wyali modioda, gadmovabrunebdi da cxeli wyali moCqrialebda. deni 4 kapiki Rirda, gazi, Tu ginda aTasi kubi dagexarja, 20 kapikze mets aravin mTxovda da mTlianad yvela saxis komunaluri xarjebi 5 maneTze meti ar mijdeboda. axla ki zamTarSi, marto komunaluri gadasaxadi, 400 larze adis. maSin minimaluri pensia 80 maneTi rom iyo, im oTxmocmaneTian pensionersac ki cxovreba kacurad SeeZlo, aRar vlaparakob 140 maneTian pensionerebze, rasac is 80maneTiani pensioneri iZenda, dRevandelma pensionerma igive produqtebi rom SeiZinos, mas 640 lari unda hqondes, radgan maSin kilogrami xorci 2 maneTi Rirda da 80 maneTad 40 kilo xorcs yidulobda, rasac dRevandeli kur- xavdi, imave ojaxSi Tavs Cemi sakuTari xeliT moviklavdi, rom Sens gaumaZRar da usulgulo kapitalistebs, egeba, patara sindisis qenjna egrZnoT. samagierod, dRevandeli Seni `elita~ _ parlamentarebi, saministroebis muSakebi, gamgeblebi da sxva. am kapitalisturma sistemam bednierze bednierebad aqcies. TiTqmis yvela maTganma sasaxleebi aiSena da 100 aTasebi raSi daxarjon, aRar ician. maT xalxic da qveyanac fexebze hkidiaT. amitomac Tqvenc da Tqvens garemocvasac, komunistebis da socializmis saxsenebelic ki gezizRebaT. komunistebis mier dRe da Rame oflismRvreli SromiT aSenebuli socializmis qonebiT, uSromelad rom gamilionerdiT, ra Tqma unda, Tqven im informaciis gaxsenebac ar gindaT, amitomac aris, rom Tqven im sistemas avadsaxsenebels eZaxiT. xolo Cven, vinc is socializmi avaSeneT da vimeoreb, vis mier Seqmnili qonebiTac Tqven gamilionerdiT, am simdidris Semqmnelebs Carecxilebs gveZaxiT. didad Seamayeba, rom Cemi Tavdadebuli, 52-wliani SromiT socialistur saqarTvelos ise vem- albaT, Senc da Seni nacebic ityvian _ e.i. saSualeba ar gqonda da imitom ar agiRiao. ara, Cveno uZRebo Svilebo, maSin me ris saSualebac mqonda, is rom Tqven gqonodaT, Tqveni Roruli moTxovnilebis gamo dRes yvela Tqvengani, miliarderi iqnebodiT. 1980 wlidan 1990 wlamde elmavalmSenebel qarxanaSi 105 milioni maneTis generaluri rekonstruqcia midioda (rac maSin, im 105 milioni maneTiT keTdeboda, dRes imas 2-jer 105 miliardi dolariTac ver gaakeTeb). am rekonstruqciis ganyofilebis ufrosi viyavi me, miSa, albaT, yvela Seni naci ityvis, maSin suleli yofilao. Cveno momxveWelebo, sulelebi gamogonebebs ver igoneben. (eqvsiode wlis win sruliad SemTxveviT, rusul JurnalSi, Cemi erT-erTi gamogoneba, romelic me 1972 wels cxovrebaSi davnerge, iaponelebis erT-erT instituts, 34 wlis Semdeg gamougonia. e.i. rac me, ramodenime aTeuli wlis win, cxovrebaSi ganvaxorciele, imas iaponiis institutis tvini 34 wlis Semdeg Caswvda da 250 milioni dolaris ekonomia miiRo, maSinve aviRe Cemi gamogonebis mowmoba da JurnaliT xelSi mivedi saqpatentSi _ radgan honorari, rogorc pirvel gamomgonebels, kanoniT me mekuTvnoda, sadac miTxres: _ ho, vxedavT, rom gamogonebis avtoric Tqvena xarT da kanoniT honoraric Tqven gekuTvniT, magram am ususur saqarTvelos imxela iaponiasTan Widili ar SeuZlia. isev sabWoTa kavSiri rom iyos, maSin ki dedas vutirebdiTo). afxazeTSi omi rom daiwyo, Cemi qveynis mTlianobis dasacavad maSinve gamovcxaddi lenraionis samxedro komisariatSi. magram komisarma bilaniSvilma 58 wlis asakis gamo ar gamiSva, rezervSi Camwera da miTxra: _ RmerTma ar qnas, Tqveni asakis xalxi dagvWirdes, Tu dagvWirdiT, dagiZaxebTo. vinaidan me ar wamiyvanes, Cemi gamogonebebiT mogrovili honorari _ 72 aTasi maneTi, bolo kapikamde sul afxazeTis Tavdacvis fondSi Cavricxe. im socialisturi sistemis dros Cven `Carecxilebis~ 90 procenti, dRedaRam muxlCauxrelad vSromobdiT da wyobas_ socializms imitom mistiris mosaxleoba. Tqven Tqveni Roruli moTxovnilebebis gamo rigiT moqalaqeebs cxovreba jojoxeTad gviqcieT. avTandil qurxuli CMYK 24 saerTo gazeTi 28 #39 (223), 12-18.IX, 2012 w. msoflios 10 cnobili narkomani 1. froidma kokaini 1884 wels gasinja da gaognebuli darCa misi SedegebiT. am nivTierebis gamoyenebis Semdeg moexsna depresia, daubrunda sakuTari Tavis rwmena. axalgazrda zigmundma statia gamoaqveyna saxelwodebiT ,,kokainis Sesaxeb~, sadac igi rekomendacias uwevda kokains, rogorc adgilobrivi gautkivarebis saSualebas, rogorc asTmis, sakvebmomnelebel wamals, rac depresiasa da nevrozebs Svelis. fsiqoanalizis mamam im xanebSi bevri naSromi gamoaqveyna kokainis Tvisebebis Sesaxeb, sadac aRwerili iyo am nivTierebis miRebiT gamowveuli yvela reaqcia. Tumca froidis daintereseba kokainiT SemTxveviTi ar yofila. narkotikis borotad gamoyenebis gamo daiRupa froidis uaxloesi megobari enst fon flaiSli. megobris sikvdilamde froidi cdilobda flaiSli ganekurna narkodamokidebulebisagan da kokainis SenacvlebiT mkurnalobda mas. magram moxda ise, rom flaiSli axla kokaindamokidebuli gaxda. miiRo didi raodenobis kokaini da gardaicvala. magram davubrundeT kvlav zigmund froids. TviTonac bevrs cdilobda gaqceoda TeTr fxvnils, magram es arc ise ioli aRmoCnda. 2. endi uorxoli - obetroli obetroli arc Tu ise gavrcelebuli narkotikia. am klasifikaciaSi aderals ufro icnoben. am ukanasknels receptiT iZlevian pacientisTvis, romelsac samuSaoze meti yuradReba da Sromisunarianoba sWirdeba. pop varskvlavi endi uorxoli obetrolis abebs ise ylapavda, rogorc ,,tik-takis~ marcvlebs. miT ufro, aseTi tipis preparatebi fsiqologiur aramdgradobas, depresias, gulis muSaobis Seferxebas iwvevs. magram obetrols kidev erTi Tviseba aqvs _ is swrafad iwyebs moqmedebas da swrafadve mTavrdeba. ra unda hqna am dros? unda ylapo da ylapo abebi. Sedegi? yovelTvis fataluria. 3. mailz devisi _ heroini Tqveni ar vici, magram mailz devisi Cemi usayvarlesi musikosia. mas ,,jazis Sav baronsac~ uwodeben. me-20 saukunis am udides kompozitors seriozuli problemebi hq qonda narkotikebTan. misi SemoqmedebiTi moRvaweobis dros iyo periodebi, roca musikosi saerTod ver muSaobda. da yvelafer amaSi narkotiki iyo damnaSave. magram mailz devisis uaxloesi megobris, cnobili boqsioris Suga rea robinsonis daxmarebiT oTxwliani ,,brZolis~ Semdeg SeZlo gamomZvraliyo narkotikuli jurRmulidan da dabruneboda Semoqmedebas. 4. balzaki _ kofeini bevri Tqvengani ityvis, diliT ver vfxizldebi, samuSaos ver Sevudgebi Wiqa yava Tu ar davlieo. magram es aris zustad yavadamokidebuleba da es ,,awuxebda~ swored did frang mweralsac. mogexsenebaT, balzaki sakmaod nayofieri Semoqmedi iyo, igi yoveldRe saaTobiT muSaobda. hoda. formaSi rom yofiliyo, svamda bevr yavas, Zils rom gaqceoda. mas uyvarda Tqma _ es surnelovani nayeni Cems gonebaSi araCveulebriv azrebs badebso. magram dRes iTvleba, rom swored yavis gadaWarbebuli moxmarebis gamo daavadda mwerali gulis avadmyofobiT, rac misi gardacvalebis mizezi gaxda axalgazrda asakSi. balzaki xom 50 wlisa gardaicvala?! igi dReSi oc Wiqa yavas miirTmevda. aseT mdgomreobas yavadamokidebuleba anu kofeinizmi hqvia da toqsikomaniis erT-erTi saxea. igi iwvevs gulsisxlZarRvTa daavadebebs, nervuli sistemis daavadebebs, Tavis tkivilebs, Zilis darRvevas, nervul aSlilobas, aRgznebadobas, SfoTvas. xSirad adamians pesimistur ganwyobas uqmnis. 5. luis keroli _ opiumi kerolis axalgazodobisas opiums laudanums eZaxdnen da bevri adamiani svamda opiums, roca odnav SeuZlod iyo, an Tavi stkioda. aravin dafiqrebula maSin imaze, rom SeiZleboda am wamalze damokidebulni gamxdariyvnen. ase mouvida inglisel mwerals Carlz lutvij dodjsons, luis kerolis saxeliT cnobil adamians. igi migrenis mZime daavadebiT itanjeboda. tkivilis gasayuCeblad mwerali laudanums svamda. miT umetes, rom adreul bavSvobaSi mas seriozuli fsiqologiuri problemebi hqonda. narkotiki ki ,,exmareboda~ mas kompleqsis moxsnasa da sakuTari Tavisadmi rwmenis dabrunebaSi. roca mis wigns ,,alisa saocrebaTa qveyanaSi~ waikiTxavT, darwmundebiT, rom luis keroli, am wignis werisas narkotikis zemoqmedebis qveS iyo. Tumca unda iTqvas, rom swored narkotiki iyo, ramac mis cxovrebas seriozuli ziani miayena. 6. edit piafi yvelafers iRebda. cnobilia, rom safrangeTis sayvareli momRerali 1951 wels seriozul avtokatastrofaSi mohyva. romlis Sedegadac momReralma dakarga xeli da ori nekni da sakmaod arasaxarbielo Sesaxedaoba miiRo. amis Semdeg mimarTa man morfins. svamda yvelafers, rac xelSi moxvdeboda. am saSinel avariamde cota xniT adre swored avtokatastrofaSi daiRupa editis sayvareli adamiani. momRerals realobiT gamowveuli saSineli depresiisgan Tavi rom daeRwia, alkohols mieZala. TviTmkvlelobisgan igi megobarma qalbatonma ixsna. alkoholizmisgan gansakurneblad mkurnalobam Sedegi ver gamoiRo. sasmelsa da depresias momReralma Tavi ver daaRwia. miuxedavad amisa, momRerali scenaze mainc gamodioda. Tavis did mwuxarebas scenaze gamosvlisas veravin amCnevda, maSinac ki, roca is ukve filtvis kiboTi mZimed iyo daavadebuli da sunTqvas uxuTavda yelSi mibjenili sisxli. 7. magram iciT, Tqven rom uiliam folkneri alkoholiki iyo? diax, swored is amerikeli mwerali da novelisti, romelic unda giTxraT, dRemde rCeba CemTvis usayvarles mwerlad da literaturuli azrovnebis ugvirgvino mefed. Tumca, rogorc amboben, sxva aranakleb cnobil da saxelovan amerikel mwerlebsac stanjavda Turme es saSineli Cveva. frensis ficjeraldi, ernest heminguei, edgar po, sinkler luisi, ingliseli poeti da dramaturgi dilan tomasi. alkoholi Zalian bevri cnobili mwerlisTvis iyo narkotiki, romelmac SeiZleba iTqvas, maT didi sikeTe ar moutana. 8. maria kalasi _ kualudi cnobili berZeni operis momRerali maria kalasi sakmaod putkuna qalbatoni gaxldaT, magram Tavisi karieris mwvervalze man momentalurad dakarga wona, amboben, rom is svamda kualuds da swored am abebma Camoacila zedmeti kilogramebi, Tumca is yovelTvis irwmuneboda, rom misi sigamxdre mkacri dietis Sedegi iyo. 9. trumen kepoti trumen kepotma mwerlur warmatebas maSin miaRwia, roca aravin eloda amas, magram swored am warmatebam daRupa igi. fufuneba, cxovrebis araswori wesi, amave dros bevri stresi da nerviuloba iyo is, ramac trumen kepoti alkoholizmamde miiyvana. Tuki vinme mas sasmels daumalavda, mwerali sasowarkveTilebaSi vardeboda. bolo wlebSi is narkotikebs mieZala. sikvdilis Semdeg mwerlis sisxlSi aRmoaCines didi raodenobiT barbiturani, valiumi, epilefsiis sawinaaRmdego da tkivilgamayuCebeli preparatebis kvali. 10. hemfri devi cnobili didi britaneli qimikosi da gamomgonebeli, romelmac udidesi aRmoCenebi gaakeTa qimiaSi miiCnevda, rom azoti ar aris sawamlavi. yovelive es man sakuTar Tavze gamoscada. hemfrim daiwyo azotis ynosva da aRniSna, rom azotis sunma SeiZleba adamianSi sasiamovno ganwyobac gamoiwvios. iqedan moyolebuli qimikosi yoveldRe ynosavda azots da miT ufro metad grZnobda maTrobela efeqts, rac masSi mxiarul halucinaciebs warmoqmnida. am ,,zebunebrivi gazis~ zemoqmedebiT dawera hemfri devim leqsebi. is am leqsebSi azotis moqmedebiT gamowveul ganwyobaze laparakobda. erTxel, roca saxelovanma qimikosma gazis 5 didi doza Seiynosa, 3 saaTis ganmavlobaSi goneba dakarga, Tumca gamofxizlebis Semdeg eqsperimentebi sakuTar Tavze ar Seuwyvetia. swored aman gamoiwvia mecnieris seriozuli daavadeba da sikvdili. moamzada ana vadaWkoriam astrologiuri prognozi verZi _ am kvirSi profesionaluri winsvla geliT. konkretulad es SeiZleba iyos axali samuSao adgili an gasamrjelos momateba. kuro _ mimdinare periodSi moimatebs Tqveni momxibvleloba da Sarmi, es ki sawinaaRmdego sqesi adamianebs Tqvendami simpaTiiT ganawyobs. tyupebi _ Tu Tqven gaTavisufldebiT gaorebisgan da amasTan koncentraciasac moaxerxebT, SesaZloa seriozul warmatebebs miaRwioT. kirCxibi _ kviris pirvel naxevarSi mosalodnelia garkveuli problemebi gagiCndeT da es, ZiriTadad, dakavSirebuli iqneba Tqvens emociur mdgomareobasTan. lomi _ moerideT marto moqmedebas, TviT ideebsac marto nu dagegmavT. nebismier saqmian urTierTobaSi uSualoba da saqmisadmi profesiuli midgoma gamoavlineT. qalwuli _ am periodSi miiRebT metad saWiro informacias, romelic Tqvens karieras sasikeTod waadgeba, Tumca es informacia praqtikulad unda gamoiyenoT. saswori _ am kviraSi nu gamoiCenT ambicurobas da sakuTar Tavze nurc zedmet pasuxismgeblobas aiRebT. morieli _ nebismier umniSvnelo wvrilmans seriozulad miudeqiT, raTa uyuradRebobis gamo sabediswero Secdomebi ar dauSvaT. mSvildosani _ SesaZlebelia, saqmiani urTierTobebi droebiT damuxruWdes da iZulebiT cvlilebebis gakeTebac mogiwioT. nu aboboqrdebiT da partniorebs nu daupirispirdebiT. Txis rqa _ iyaviT aqtiuri, originaluri da nebismier urTierTobebSi gulwrfeloba gamoiCineT, radgan winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi Tqvens garSemomyofebs gauCndebaT survili TqvenTan urTierToba gawyviton. merwyuli _ am kviraSi Tqveni yuradReba mTlianad ojaxur problemebze gadaerTveba. es ki samsaxurebriv saqmeebs droebiT ukan gadaswevs. Tevzebi _ mimdinare `dasajdomad~ kviraSi namdvilad ver moicliT da mTel Tqvens energias axal da amasTan, saintereso ideebis ganxorcielebaze daxarjavT.
